Replacement for zig charger... Any good?

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  1. mjltigger

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    Not really as it seems to be ONLY a charger
    You need something that has a 12v continuous output as well really
     
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    Sterling chargers are amongst the best and very widely used in boats. I had the earlier version of this in my last boat and it kept mt batteries fine and also ran the boat electrics when we lived aboard for some 9 months. If the EBL in our van ever goes then I will replace it with one of these

    http://sterling-power.com/products/pro-charge-ultra?variant=873455555
     
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    @mjltigger The chager suggested by ScotJim is out of stock at present but the same company has the 25 Amp version on offer for just £10 more (£79.95). Looks good value (y)
     
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    yes.. excellent kit and if I had a boat it would be my choice.. when it can be mission critical, electrical kit has to be the best ...

    but overkill in a motorhome .. shoreside is rarely more than a few steps .. ;)
     
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    Strangely you only use them in a boat when secure in a marina with shore power. The big reason they are popular is their charging routine maximises battery life, something I suspect most motorhome owners are quite keen on
     
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    I was thinking with the boat's generator .. and I'm sure they are keen on good battery life ..

    I just think it's way over spec. for the run of the mill motorhomers needs.... the charger / power supply from Amperor is a good bit of kit without breaking the bank..

    In a previous RV I fitted a second hand Victron Multi-plus charger / 1600 watt inverter.. lovely bit of kit.. but I wouldn't have bought if I had to pay full cost.. couldn't justify it..
     
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    And thanks @Jaws

    Thanks all. I think the 25amp is better for our needs anyway as we have diesel heating and a double bank of batteries.. Price certainly less than half what the replacement zig is available for and way less than the sterling so think that's the one..

    All the buttons on our control panel are rockers and the PCB is similar to a watch so I assume there's no intelligence built in and it doesn't matter that the charger and controller are different is that right?
     
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    I think what has killed the charger us ikd age. At a guess it went in our van out of a scrap caravan.. It was also probably never meant to handle 200ah of battery and a deisel heater..
     
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    Beware the amperor.

    If it should fail out of warrenty its a throw away item.

    Amperor do not offer a repair service....i know, i tried them when mine went t!ts up a while ago.....but i bought it around 7 years ago so it cost less than a tenner a year..
     
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    If it lasts that long it will probably outlast the van.. and at that price it has to be the best option out there.
     
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    The link I gave suggests a 20 Amp charging current or 300 Watt charger. Diesel heaters need batteries in good condition. If you have 2 x 100 AH batteries charge them separately using a changeover switch. That gives you a separate battery for the diesel heater start up.
     
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    well I have bought the 25amp from the site @Jaws , @Flamenca & @ScotJim suggested so will update when it arrives and is fitted.. I may need to replace my batteries as well as they took a beating when the charger broke but with a bit of luck they will see us through the winter and I can review solar options next summer as well..

    now just to negotiate with the neighbours to put the van on the drive for a week to give it a good charge..
     
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    I got this delivered a couple of days after my last post but only found time to fit it today.

    I first tried to decipher the wiring in the consumer unit to remove the old wiring and connect the new straight in but it was very hard to get to and just so much spaghetti so instead I cut the old one off close to the unit and replaced it with a double socket. I then wired the new charger via a standard 13amp plug.. this isn't necessarily how it should be done but the advantage is that the extra socket will come in handy and is still protected by the consumer unit.

    All working, connected in and everything powered up - very slightly worrying as I had a spare wire (old one was a zig unit which had 2 red, a black and a green connected to it. I put the two red ones to +ve and the black to negative terminal but couldn't trace the green one so left it.. ) anyway.. all working, even with full load (derv heater, chargers, lights and inverter although not pulling a big load from the inverter) I still managed to get some juice in the batteries.. now I just need to see how the batteries hold up after taking such a beating while the last charger was dying.. thanks again all for your help

    On another note, think the van has been parked up for nearly 8 weeks and the engine started turn of the key.. can't be bad :)
     
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    just another question for anyone who knows the answer.. will thisa charger be damaged if I start the engine with the mains connected? Presumably it will just spot the charge coming in from the alternator and stop feeding power but is there a chance this might screw anything up?
     
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    They will live happily together 'till death do them part.
     
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    Ah.. But how long will that be ;)

    Thanks @hilldweller .. chances are I will always remember to unplug but you never know..
     
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