Replacement Fiat ignition key (1 Viewer)

[SteveB123]

Just a thought.. there is a difference between a coded key and a remote control key
The coded key is chipped but has no buttons.
A common misconception is that the key is coded.. Nope.
The key is a pretty inert bit of kit.. You have to program the ECU to accept the new key ( often limited to a maximum of 4 keys ).. This is why you have to take the van to the key supplier

Here is another guy who thinks keys are coded is he wrong too. http://www.autokeysquad.com/advice/modern-car-keys-work

 

[Jaws]

The type of key used to clone with is not the same as an ordinary key..

 

[Dill]

We bought a new dumb key for our Ducato. It was called a code 2 key which is a clone. I watched them do it too, they had a blank key which was cut from our existing key, then he taped a blank transponder to our working key and turned ignition on and off five times, then went back to a machine called ZedBull, inserted the key after about three minutes he put the transponder in the new key then went back to our van and it started job done.

I did some research into the dealer keys too. When ordered from the dealer the new key comes already cut to the locks as it left the factory, and are part coded from the vin number. The new key then needs to be programmed to the immobiliser on the vehicle. To gain entry to the immobiliser one needs the immobiliser code from the dealer.

I can confirm that new remote fobs do have to be obtained from the dealer. Please do NOT buy a remote fob from the likes of Ebay, thinking it may work on your MH it WON'T as they will have been programmed already to another and can only be programmed once, OK if you just wat to swap the innerds

Regards

Dill

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[Minxy]

We bought a new dumb key for our Ducato. It was called a code 2 key which is a clone. I watched them do it too, they had a blank key which was cut from our existing key, then he taped a blank transponder to our working key and turned ignition on and off five times, then went back to a machine called ZedBull, inserted the key after about three minutes he put the transponder in the new key then went back to our van and it started job done.

I did some research into the dealer keys too. When ordered from the dealer the new key comes already cut to the locks as it left the factory, and are part coded from the vin number. The new key then needs to be programmed to the immobiliser on the vehicle. To gain entry to the immobiliser one needs the immobiliser code from the dealer.

I can confirm that new remote fobs do have to be obtained from the dealer. Please do NOT buy a remote fob from the likes of Ebay, thinking it may work on your MH it WON'T as they will have been programmed already to another and can only be programmed once, OK if you just wat to swap the innerds

Regards

Dill

We're going to see someone who MAY be able to re-programme one of ours (a spare remote which we bought for our previous camper from Fiat) ... I'll report back when we've been!

 

[PeteH]

OH! for the "good `ol days" Box of blanks, Plus a Bar of Soap! and a key cutter! (or in my case the engine room Vice and a Fine small file)!! Used to get me into the Fridge, Cold room, AND the beer store!!. Chief Steward could never work it out!

Pete

 

[Molls-Phot]

We're in this predicament having recently lost the original flip key to our van. We still have the spare blade key but I miss the convenience of the central locking buttons. The Fiat main dealer has quoted almost £280 for a re-programmed replacement. In looking for a cheaper alternative, one auto locksmith has already said they can't help.

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[joka250]

We're in this predicament having recently lost the original flip key to our van. We still have the spare blade key but I miss the convenience of the central locking buttons. The Fiat main dealer has quoted almost £280 for a re-programmed replacement. In looking for a cheaper alternative, one auto locksmith has already said they can't help.

Sadly in this instance I think you have to bite the Fiat bullet, I don't know enough to get involved with the earlier posts in such detail but my working experience and input from a locksmith friend who can work miracles with keys, locks and some electronics is that Fiat are at best difficult and usually impossible. We both have experience of cloned key cobs causing serious issues with immobilisers. Best of luck.

 

[Stroppy Bird]

We're in this predicament having recently lost the original flip key to our van. We still have the spare blade key but I miss the convenience of the central locking buttons. The Fiat main dealer has quoted almost £280 for a re-programmed replacement. In looking for a cheaper alternative, one auto locksmith has already said they can't help.

I used this guy

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-DUC...627658?hash=item1a3c77b48a:g:QxoAAOxyk99RzHqx

and made a trip away out of it, calling in at his to get it done. It took him about 20mins. Our original remote key was only working intermittently and he did end up using the blade key, so where the advert says one working key required I think he means either a remote or plain blade one.

I know that there have been other threads listing other suppliers, so it can be done if the auto locksmith has the right equipment.

 

[joka250]

I used this guy

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-DUC...627658?hash=item1a3c77b48a:g:QxoAAOxyk99RzHqx

and made a trip away out of it, calling in at his to get it done. It took him about 20mins. Our original remote key was only working intermittently and he did end up using the blade key, so where the advert says one working key required I think he means either a remote or plain blade one.

I know that there have been other threads listing other suppliers, so it can be done if the auto locksmith has the right equipment.

Correct me if I misunderstand but when he states 1 working key required it means a working 3 button key flip out key. I think if that is the case o p has lost that key.

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[Stroppy Bird]

Correct me if I misunderstand but when he states 1 working key required it means a working 3 button key flip out key. I think if that is the case o p has lost that key.

That's what I originally thought but I gave him the remote key which he faffed about with for a couple of minutes then asked if I'd got another key at which point I gave him the flat bladed one which he then used to do whatever trickery he needed to do. He did also plug something into the obd which I think gave the code needed for the programming.

Obviously if OP was going to use him it would need clarifying before travelling.

 

[mitzimad]

i bought a cheap remote from ebay which worked to lock and unlock the doors on a 2008 fiat ducato i was told about it on here i think i still have one which i keep meaning to try on my renault i will try it in the morning if i can find the insructions to programe it if it doesnt work your welcome to it

 

[bobandjanie]

My brother is a auto locksmith and knowing how much the equipment cost the vans workshop and attending courses to work for the AA / RAC it's more than just cutting and programming keys it's getting in vehicles being trained to be a professional car thief.
For the hours and milage he does I think it's cheap, just when he thinks he is going home and finds the recovery company has dumped 3 or 4 cars in the yard, and most of the keys done through the dealer a qualified auto locksmith has been and sorted them. http://www.remotekeyservices.co.uk
No funsters or family discount. Bob.

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[mitzimad]

can any one find the thread where the remotes were recomended as they only worked up to a certain year several funsters bought them and only some worked depending on year just checked ebay listing and it was around 11/7/2016 what year is the OP'S VAN?
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[TheBig1]

can any one find the thread where the remotes were recomended as they only worked up to a certain year several funsters bought them and only some worked depending on year just checked ebay listing and it was around 11/7/2016 what year is the OP'S VAN?
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https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/bargain-cab-remote-for-x250.134026/#post-1932753

 

[Tizme]

Not wishing to hijack the thread, but it is fairly dormant so hopefully the original OP will not mind .

I have a 2004 Ducato with only a single key, for peace of mind I'd really like a spare. The original has no buttons, i.e. no remote locking/unlocking, but it does have a press button to flick out the key from the fob and unlocking/locking the drivers door also locks/unlocks the passenger and rear doors. Can anyone suggest how/where I can get a spare without breaking the bank?

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[SteveB123]

Try Timpsons if you have one near you.