Replacement Fiat ignition key

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  1. Drexxer

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    Hi all,

    I'd like to purchase a spare replacement ignition key for a 2010 Fiat ducato based c class, do people go direct to Fiat or are there other suppliers out there that people can recommend?

    thanks in advance

    Andy
     
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    When we bought our current van (2003 Ducato) it only had one ignition key. The dealer arranged a second one through the local Fiat truck garage. It was delivered to the garage and we had to take the van to have it coded. Cost about £210 some 3 and a half years ago. Happily for us the dealer we bought it from reimbursed us.
     
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    Are you after the key with the remote fob or just a "dumb" key? The former I suspect will have to come from a Fiat dealer and at a wild guess might cost around £200! There may be other options for a plain key. Have a look on eBay.
     
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  4. Ranger

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    Might be worth asking your local Timsons I was very surprised they could supply a ford key and code it from the original at very reasonable price. This was for a Ford key with transponder.
     
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    Unfortunately you can only get an x250 or later Fiat remote key and fob from Fiat - you have to let them see your V5 doc and they then do some checks, then they order the key in and once in, you then have to take your original in and they code the new one to match which takes around an hour.

    We did this for our previous PVC (2012 model) and it cost somewhere between £250 and £280 I think - this was 3 years ago so I expect the cost will have risen!
     
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    Another thought which I've posted on another thread - if you have an alarm fob which works the central locking, and simply want a second remote key fob, get another one for the alarm and a basic Fiat key for the ignition for when you need it - this should work out a lot cheaper.

    On our current PVC we had a remote Fiat fob with key, and a standard key, so when we had an alarm fitted we just got a fob for it to work the locking.
     
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  7. Lenny HB

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    Timsons can do a plane key for £55 if you want the remote fob you will have to go to Fiat and take out a mortgage.
     
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    Thanks for all the reply's,

    the alarm is off a separate keyfob (growler) but I think I'll go down the basic key route as personally I think £250+ quid is a bit OTT!!!

    so can you get the basic keys from non Fiat suppliers?

    Andy
     
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    As I said Timsons £55, they will need access to the van, so don't go to one in a shopping centre, a lot of the larger Tescos & Sainsbury's have a Timsons outside.
     
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    Got my blank from China....£3.50.

    But then, I did have the electronics board in a broken key so simply swapped it over.

    Just need a market trader to cut the blank....Timpsons won't cut what they don't supply.
     
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  11. SteveB123

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    I got a 2014 Ducato key cut and coded at a local shop £45 I had to take the vehicle because half the code comes from the vehicle. Timpsons told me they could do it without the vehicle but this is impossible. The local Fiat dealer tried to stitch me up quoting crazy prices.
     
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    I assume you are just talking about a standard key with the chip in it, not the 'flick' type key and remote fob combo?
     
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  13. SteveB123

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    Yes I believe you have to go to Fiat for the remote.
     
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    Timpsons did mine ( 2007 X250 ) for £32 last year And that is a coded key
     
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    Just a thought.. there is a difference between a coded key and a remote control key
    The coded key is chipped but has no buttons.
    A common misconception is that the key is coded.. Nope.
    The key is a pretty inert bit of kit.. You have to program the ECU to accept the new key ( often limited to a maximum of 4 keys ).. This is why you have to take the van to the key supplier
     
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    On the 2014 Ducatos there is a transponder in the key which has to be matched to the vehicle, you program the key- not the vehicle ECU.
     
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    no the chip in the key is set at manufacture like a dog microchip. the ecu reads the code and checks it against the registered keys. to register a new key you need the original and have to know how to enter programming mode. well thats the explanation given to me by a friend who is a master locksmith and specialises in vehicles
     
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    Yes, there is a chip in the key but it is inert.. It is not possible to program it in any way
    Sorry Steve, no idea where you got the info from mate, but go back and clip 'em round the ear !! ;)

    In the key there is a tuned circuit that actives when RF is detected from the ring mounted under the ignition barrel .. That tiny amount of RF is enough to fire up the circuit in the chip and allow the key to be 'read'

    I have to do plenty of bike ones and believe it or not they use the same type of chip in almost all keys.. cars, lorries, vans and yes, bikes.
     
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    I am getting a house key cut tomorrow at the same place so I will ask him exactly how he does it.
    Steve
     
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    Ask away.. I have been doing the job for 15 years.. Chances are you are gonna talk to an ex double glazing salesman who has been told the basics and has little idea of how these things really work ! ;)
     
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