Rear camera/parking sensors or non ?

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  1. Ridgeway

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    As many cars these days have sensors and some even have cameras for parking I'd like to understand the practical needs on a MH. I have a camera on the camera (rear facing) and TBH it only really gets used when hitching up the caravan as I tend to use the mirrors and sensors. Are cameras worth while or a gimmick ? Also some seem to be for parking and some for rear viewing (dodgy statement I know...) From the threads on here the wireless cameras don't sound up to much due to signal interference but what about wireless sensors, these seem as cheap as chips and I assume don't suffer from signal interference as much ?

    Don't mind buying the right piece of equipment if I'm going to use it and it will be a DIY install anyway.

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    Am I right in thinking you want to put sensors on the back of a MH?

    Useful for parking in spaces you would use as a car. A lot of spaces you park your MH may not have any reference point to set the sensor off (i.e. campsite, open carpark etc).

    At least with a camera you can see what is behind you.
     
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    I all depends on the m/h layout.......ours has no rear window so we have two cameras one of which acts as a rear view mirror & the other points downwards which helps when hitching the toad.

    Brian
     
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    I would not be without a camera. It is quite difficult to judge exactly where the back is using the side mirrors, since they normally have a slight convex curve, which distorts distance. It is much easier to manoeuvre in tight areas with a reversing camera. Also, if you ever have to reverse in standing traffic (not common I know - but perhaps to move around an obstruction) it is highly likely that a car will have pulled up so close behind you that you cannot see them in the mirrors. I nearly backed into a Belgian in Brussels in the first year we had the van: came home a had a camera fitted. Ours is set looking downwards so that the bottom edge of the field of view is just behind the rear of the van. It's there for manoeuvring, I don't use it as a rear-view mirror substitute.
     
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    Got mine fitted and had £3 Knocked of my insurance ( as Tesco says!!!!!! )
     
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    I have a twin system as well, I use it as a rear view mirror when driving and find it is invaluable, especially when in towns and heavy traffic, I can change cameras to the low angle camera to check on the toad or when reversing with the push of a button. I originally had a wireless system but it was not a very good one so changed it for a wired system last year. My MH is 8 metres and no rear window so IMO it is a "must have"accessory.
     
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    This forum will cost me a fortune:Laughing:

    So a twin cam, hard wired system seems to be the way to go. The MH we have chosen has no rear windows so It would be useful to have the rear mirror substitute and the parking with low angle cam makes sense. Hadn't thought about the lack of reference points when parking a MH, that makes sense.

    Can anyone recommend a make or supplier in the UK that is suitable for DIY install.

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    My system is a twin camera, it will switch to reverse camera with reverse gear selection though I have disabled this. I switch between the two via the monitor, that way I have the rear view camera until I am close to the obstruction/load then I switch to the downward facing camera for extreme accuracy. Both in colour / night-vision, brilliant kit.
    Purchased From: Parkingcameras.com
    Purchase Price: £380.00
    Self installed.
     
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    It depends on personal taste and confidence I think. I would never trust the reversing sensor personally though.

    Since I did my C1 training and took the test I don't feel the need for a camera anymore. If I am ever in doubt about what is behind me I will get out and have a quick look. Not happened yet. Got to admit that it was a bit interesting at times in the 9 meter long bus due to its width.

    Where I am parked at the moment I have less than 9" each side on the entry and the path to the parking spot is not straight. I do it all on side mirrors. Prior to the training and test I wouldn't have attempted it though.

    As I have said before HGV training course is worth it's weight in gold if you are a solo MH'er just for the reversing training. I would recommend anyone moving to a motorhome for the first time takes a day or even half a day with an HGV training company, well worth it.
     
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    My van had both camera and sensors fitted when I bought it. I find them invaluable. The sensors are confusing at times as I haven't yet worked out their range of influence. The camera is brilliant. At first I would ask Mrs B to guide me onto a pitch but using the distance and near cameras in sequence make it pretty easy. I wouldn't be without them.
     
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    I have had years driving atrics and rigids and have to agree, I don't feel the need for cameras. That's not to say I don't like them. I think they are a good safety feature but I would imagine not having them encourages the more frequent use of mirrors.
    They do seem to be appearing more on HGVs and this is primarily for reversing safety. The other applications are for the likes of refuse disposal operative drivers (bin men) who can see their colleagues working at the rear of the vehicle
    I would like them fitted to our MH but at the moment I can't afford them. Just been made redundant. Still having cruise control fitted though.
     
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    I try and make sure SWMBO is standing behind me when Im going backwards ( to one side ) And after much trianing she now knows she needs to see me in whatever wing mirror. I have a very small reverse camera on the Autotrail.........but prefer someone to shout at !

    A dealer I went to said he has a golden rule about having another person on hand behind a reversing vehicle ...when they move motorhomes around.

    As Im about to embark on an A frame...I might install one to let me see my
    tow car is still there :Smile:

    barry
     
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    Just spent 3 hours removing the sensors

    I have just finished 3 hours of swearing.. just removed the sensors I fitted in July 2010. they stopped working.. I have a spare set, so I tested everything by switching out all the parts bit by bit... Connected to the reversing lamp up to a control box to the cab and a bleeper and unit that gives distance.

    I fitted because of a low wall on the side at my house.. I do have a back up camera.. the sensors are hit and miss .. perhaps it is a bad make.. got it from Maplins.. I have them on my car, those had to be replaced as they also packed up (after 6 weeks).. second set have been in the car now 8 years plus..

    I had to drill through the fibreglass body behind on of the two indented reflectors and I used the middle of one of the reflectors each side.. I have now put new reflectors over the holes so it looks like it did originally.

    So for me.. they were a waste of time... The camera, now that is a must for me.. I use it to tow a trailer and it is well worth having.. tend to use it as a rear view mirror and have it on all the time with an override switch (Fitted by VanBitz)

    Bob:thumb:
     
  14. stagman

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    Don't mind buying the right piece of equipment if I'm going to use it and it will be a DIY install anyway.

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    I have one camera able to add more if wanted . I use it as rearview and for reversing wouldn't go without it e.g. cars , bikes right up your a--e tucked in can't see them in your mirrors also on site kids playing could save a nasty accident :thumb:
     
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    we also use a whistle

    We have whistles in the RV by the door.. When I am parking on the ramps or backing Sue will use one whistle to say stop... two blasts to keep going.. we also use a hand held CB (not a two way.. real CB).. I have a cb in the cab so I can hear her talking.. work just as well as the sensors... plus I can turn SUe down if I want:Wink: cannot do that with the whistles.

    Bob
     
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    Have a look at this site. The owner generally has a stand at shows.

    http://www.drwelectronics.com/
     
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    I had a Toyota Lucida which had sensors. Didn't stop me reversing (gently) into a VW Golf when parallel parking once. Owner wasnt amused (he came running out of a cafe wearing his lunch down his shirt to remonstrate with me):Sad:

    Our Motorhome has rear window which Mrs Colpot opens and tells me when to stop. So, as long as She is mobile enough I wont need a camera :Smile:
     
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    The first time I reversed without using the camera (forgot to switch on a main box and didn't bother to get out of the seat; lazy boy) I hit a dead end sign and pole in my blind spot. Luckily got away wirh a scratch and a bit of blue paint. Bought some wireless sensors which work a treat and never reverse without using all aids including the mirrors. It's the thin, low, small little things that catch people out.
     
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    the rear camera/parking sensor thing!

    Well you guys what about this one? I have two independent rear view camera's, one is the original fit (swift bolero) for reversing and the other that I just fitted is a narrow view Sony camera to give me a 'rear view mirror' image, the issue I am confronted with is the reversing camera is completely useless because of the bike rack, plus a new PWR gull wing rear tow bar assembly, plus a 'TowBox' tow ball mounted storage box...now, I'm not particularly concerned about the reversing camera but I would like to know what the distance is behind me when say reversing up to a wall etc, etc so parking sensors must be the way..a pair wired into the 'TowBox' and a pair wired into the gull bar is a fairly simply installation, but there's the dilemma what happens when I uncouple the 'TowBox' ( disconnecting the sensors) the circuit will be broken and the gull sensors wouldn't work??????? anyone :helpsos:
     
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    i have a camera on my RV but very rarely use it.

    my car has a 4 sensor system and i wouldnt be without it.

    for some reason my mirror view spacial awareness has disappeared and i just cant reverse into a parking space with ease....cant seem to judge the rear of the car, yet i have no problem reversing a 34ft motorhome over 300 mtrs along a single track lane and negotiating two tight 90 deg turns into my parking hardstanding at home using rearview mirrors alone. :Eeek:
     
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