RE: V5 details incorrect

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  1. pappajohn

    pappajohn Funster Life Member

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    Swift have come to the rescue again :thumb::thumb::thumb:

    just received a PM from Swifts engineer, Dave, saying Alko have confirmed the weight and have sent a new plate and certificate.

    this is being sent to me via snailmail...cant sent an ally plate via email....:Doh::Laughing: and then a trip to beverley to the DVLA office to get it changed. :thumb:

    Why, oh Why, cant all converters be as helpful as swiftgroup.

    A big thankyou to Ash and Dave...:thumb:
     
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    Hi John 2 ways to look at this :BigGrin: are they being helpful or just correcting what they did wrong in the first place :Rofl1::Doh:
    terry
    PS AN NEARLY 1 HOURS JOURNEY EACH WAY TO Beverly FROM Scarborough -- nice to think they can afford to send YOU new plates for You to stand the time and cost of fuel
     
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    pappajohn Funster Life Member

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    No...it wasnt their mistake Terry.

    the original dealer, cleveland motorhomes, made the cockup by registering it as 3500kg when the original owner bought it.

    it has 3 weight plates on it...fiat @ 3500kg....Alko @ 3850kg and Swift @ 3850kg.

    looks like the original (and only other) owner was unaware he was driving it for 6 years overweight and illegaly...:Eeek: as i have done for the last 2 years.:cry:
     
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    Then surly if you have 3 plates on already it is a paper exercise-- fiat original @ 3500 and alko plus swift @ 3850 ????
    terry
    PS APOLOGIES TO SWIFT :thumb::Rofl1:
     
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    I find this a bit confusing :Doh:
    As you have those weight plates fixed to your vehicle confirming its actual weights, have you really been driving overweight? Or, have you just been in the wrong taxation class and have been paying too much road fund licence?

    Maybe I missed something?
     
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    pappajohn Funster Life Member

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    yes..it is just a paper excersize BUT DVLA need sight of the certificate of conformity to put their records straight..which i dont have.
    hence the trip to DVLA beverley when it arrives from swift.

    it is registered as 3500kg with DVLA so yes...overweight AND too much tax.
    structuraly the van isnt overweight but as its registered as 3500kg, and i run at more than that, it is.

    anyone can fix a plate saying 3850kg (PHGV) but it doesnt change the fact its registered as 3500kg. (PLG)
    VOSA roadside checks may just mean looking at the plate but if they check the database or tax disc i'll be in deep sh&t....both for overloading and possibly fraud.
     
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    Glad to hear of happy outcome for you John and it didnt cost you anything, back of the net!!!!
    Your luck is turning for the best:thumb:
    Very kind of Swift to take a look and solve the issue.
     
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    Hi Pappajohn,

    Glad to hear its sorted.
    We found ourselves in the same situation. We had been driving illegally for 3yrs. New to Motorhoming didn't no any better. We think the best advice is to say to everyone check your V5's and vin plates, no matter how long you have had your motorhome.

    best wishes Kath & Bill
     
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    pappajohn Funster Life Member

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    agreed Kath & bill,
    costs nowt to check and could save a lot of problems with VOSA

    i have given a lot of advise on the forum regarding weights and licences...whether is was right or wrong :Doh:...so i should have known better than not query the LPG tax rate.
    All it took was just one post for another member that got me thinking....
     
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    Just got my new V5 back, and yep, now states 4.1 tonnes

    So the genny, 2 pushbikes, the motorbike, 20 litres of scotch, 17 chairs, 3 tables can all go back in the van now ... or maybe I will not use all the capacity straight away ! LOL !
     
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    pappajohn Funster Life Member

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    genny...essential kit

    2 bikes OR motorbike...cant ride em all at once.

    20ltr scotch...shouldnt last long enough to be a problem

    17 chairs and 3 tables....expecting a lot of guests to help with the scotch

    just lightened your load by 250kg...what yer problem !!!! :Rofl1:
     
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    One of our previous 'vans was registered by the dealer with DVLA (I didn't see the original application form so the mistake could have been DVLAs) as a 3Ltr, 5.2 tonne Motorcycle.

    Now one of those I have got to see!:Eek!:
     
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    Hi there everyone,

    Not quite sure what this thread is all about!

    Can someone give me some background information as I don't want to be falling foul of the law.

    My vehicle is rated at Kg3850 and has a plate under the bonnet stating this fact but the V5 says Kg3500, do I need to do something about this?

    I purchased the van 12 months ago from a good dealer, so it's not as if it was a private deal in a layby.

    Any info would be appreciated.
     
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    check your V5's and vin plates, no matter how long you have had your motorhome.
    Good advice, I have checked mine and have found the following.

    V5 no weight stated
    Manufacturers metal VIN plate states 3400 kg
    Converters stick on label states 3300 kg

    Not really sure where I stand on this matter. I contacted SV Tech a year or so ago about uprating. They suggested that I remove the converters sticker and go with the metal VIN plate at 3400.
    Have had to drop plans to uprate as I live 200 yards inside the London Low Emission Zone and will become non compliant in 2012 if over 3500 kg. Would appreciate your advice and opinions.

    Brisey.
     
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    Hi estcres, read from the beginning :thumb: sounds like you have the same problem as PPJohn
    terry
     
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    Legally it is what is on the V5. We had to contact Swift who gave us the right paperwork to sort it all out. Our Motorhome was a new van and therfore had been registered wrong from the begining. We only found out after the three years because it was then out of warrenty and we took it somwhere else and they informed us. Ours wasn't even registered as a motorhome. As it was our first motorhome we knew no better and thought everything was okay because we bought it from new. So our advice to everyone is to check V5's. If you are pulled in and weighed by the powers that be, they will go with what is on your V5.
     
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    as terry said...same problem as me.

    yes, you do need to sort it as the 3500kg on the V5 is the recorded weight at DVLA.

    firstly look on your tax disc....if its PLG then its 3500kg...if its PHGV then its 3850kg but if its 3500kg on the V5 then its registered as PLG

    try contacting the converters and explain the situation...they should have a record of the conversion and the uprated weight.

    failing that a visit to your nearest DVLA office is on the cards.
    in person is best in my opinion.
    explain to them the problem and they should sort it but if you have no ducumentation of the uprate (certificate of compliance) it may mean an inspection of the van by DVLA to see if it conforms.
     
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    pappajohn Funster Life Member

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    hi brisey,

    just check all my V5s for you and are as follows...

    revenue weights

    hilux 2515kg

    corsa no weight

    suzuki sj410 3499kg

    kontiki no weight.

    3ltr camry no weight


    what surprised me was the suzuki....gross weight of far, far less than 2000kg yet registered as 3499kg
    the day a small 997cc 4X4 utility has a greater gross than my 2.5ltr 4X4 double cab pickup is the day i stop drinking :Eeek:

    again, ring DVLA and ask what weight its recorded as.

    it appears to me its DVLA who cant be bothered half the time.

    i really cant see the converters DOWN plating for any reason.
     
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    Hi again,

    Thanks to everyone who has replied,

    I made a mistake in my earlier post as I checked the wrong V5.

    The V5C for my Lunar has NO revenue weight stated but the van's plate says Kg3850.

    Where does that leave me as according to earlier replies VOSA will rely on the weight stated on the V5.?

    I am in the process of checking all my paperwork to see if I have anything from ALKO who I understand were the converters who upgraded the chassis.

    Again any info/advice would be useful.

    Cheers
     
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    Thank you for the advice John, it is much appreciated.:thumb:
    Just had another look at the V5, it shows that I am registered as a Motor Caravan, Boxer 330 LX MWB HDI, Private Light Goods (PLG).
    Apart from the Reg. No. Engine capacity, Date of registration, chassis and engine number there is no other recorded information regarding weight on the document.
    The Revenue weight section is left blank, as is the maximum permissible mass.
    The vehicle was purchased from new and was registered by the supplying dealer.
    I will phone the DVLA on Monday and will post the outcome.
    Once again many thanks for your advice.:thumb:

    Brisey
     
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