thanks jim . right about me been involved in camping all my life from tents to trailertents and then motorhomes last 12 years now on 3rd mh rapido 772 traveled most of uk but never been abroad never enough time job as park warden on a large residensal park 12 months of the year very demanding hope to go abroad at some point but probably when i retire in meentime just happy to get away when i can