PROVIDING A MOTORHOME SERVICE POINT

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  1. John & Joan

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    PROVIDING A MOTORHOME SERVICE POINT

    Many members have asked why council will not provide facilities for motorhomes to stay in their car parks.

    I sent a Freedom Of Information request to Causeway Coast and Glens Borough Council in Northern Ireland, and received the following:

    Portrush Camper Van facilities
    One Euro Relais Station was installed at a cost of £6256.
    The costs of ground-works including connection to drain and water supply was £42,500. The ground works included kerbing, the development of build-outs and installation of services for water and electric connection and connection to the main sewer from the chemical toilet service point.
    A planning application for change of use was required at a cost of approx. £700. No Traffic Regulation Order (TRO) was involved in this application as it formed part of an existing camping area
    This project was funded by the legacy council of Coleraine Borough Council and the Northern Ireland Tourist Board, Tourism development scheme on a 50:50 ratio.

    I understand that the planning application for Guisborough (now gone) was £1,000 without a chemical toilet service point and water.

    So there you have it.
     
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  2. simsy56

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    Ground works £42,000!!!!!! I have installed many drains and mains during my 'plant hire and groundworks' period, but never earned that sort of money. Unless the sewer was about a mile away, it sounds ludicrous!

    Craig
     
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    You would think that councils could apply for some European community funding to help out a bit?
     
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    Rediculas , if I couldn't have done that for a couple of grand, I'd give up, if the thing cost £6256 FITTED, why all the rest
     
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    I bet the French don't pay anything like that, I expect they use there own council workers they are paying them anyway and can probably fit it into their schedule.
    Here everyone is intent on out sourcing, cross posting all the various costs to different departments rather than getting on with the job I expect half our costs are for pen pushers.
    Lost the plot in this country.
     
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    But our local coucil have just replaced all our pavement over about 8 weeks wonder what that cost. It sounds like a lot (and is for anyone with sense ) but to a council is small change and probably less than refitting a small public toilet.
     
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    At them prices, no wonder France is on its arse
     
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    Yes, but this is the sort of thing is what puts councils off providing such things , probably a private company could do this at a fraction of the cost but h&s and other body's won't allow it.
     
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    We are having a drop kerb at Badknee Towers to get Mo off the road and for two slope kerbs and three low kerbs, incl fitting, £611.65. Plus were not allowed to use a local ground worker that suggested more like £200.00. :mad:
     
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    But France aren't as stupid as us, a tap on a pole and a hole in the ground maybe 100 euros, 5 euros to use it , soon back in profit.
     
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    Perhaps even better than that, Lenny. At Montils (Charente Maritime) the mayor, one of his deputies and a friend did all the work on the installation of a FREE service facility, apart from the electrics. Sorry, but I can't see that happening in the UK.

    J
     
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    We have been to his parking area. Its not laid out as a motorhome aire the tower is by the toilets a the sewer must only extend some 30ft from them and as the whole area also serves as a car park the cost cannot be totally attributed to motorhome facilities. It costs £12.50 to overnight or £25.00 per24 hours as I remember.:(:(
     
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    When you travel abroad you see signs saying projects are being funded by the EU. This country seems disinclined to ask for such funding.

    The Caravan Sites and Control of Development act states an authority can do anything to provide facilities.
    24.—(1) A local authority shall have power within their area to provide sites where caravans may be brought, whether
    for caravans, for holidays or other temporary purposes or for use as permanent residences, and to manage the sites or lease them to some other person.
    (2) Subject to the provisions of this section, a local authority shall have power to do anything appearing to them desirable in connection with the provision of such sites, and in particular—
    (a) to acquire land which is in use as a caravan site, or which has been laid out as a caravan site, or
    (b) to provide for the use of those occupying caravan sites
    any services or facilities for their health or convenience;

    However they insist that they have to apply to themselves for planning permission and cross charge for this.
     
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    A good friend of mine now departed used to build commercial units and when it came to connecting the sewer and water supply Severn Trent Water used to charge more than it cost to put down the floor slab! He said STW made more profit from the sale than he did!
     
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    Pure guess work on my part, nice to know I wasn't that far off the mark. :)
     
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    Sounds like you had a bargain at £611.65.

    Just look at Devon and the council fees are almost that much let alone getting the job done!
     
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    I applied for a dropped kerb 2 years ago got approved .....was charged £1000.01 ....Paid the money......12 months later money refunded.... still no dropped kerb... can't get any explanation from PLYMOUTH City Council............What is going on???????
     
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    Wouldnt it be nice ot get a straight answer to the question

    ' what is all the money you collect in various taxes spent on?'

    I am aghast that we needed 800 lords, and as for all these roadworks not to fix the roads.

    How I wish the wife would agree to moving to France.
     
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    Think we get ripped off in Devon. Just had dropped kerb approved. Total fees to east devon district council over £200, devon county highways just under £300. The cheapest of 5 quotes to do a standard 3m crossing from a B road ,Inc traffic management ,was £2100 from south west highways, who were the most professional and business like by far. Had some quotes from characters that you definitely wouldn't want hanging around your property for more than £2500inc vat.
     
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