propane in uk

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  1. lebesset

    lebesset Read Only Funster

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    as most of you will know the calor propane in the uk has got an odd fitment which means you have to fiddle about if you are anywhere else

    I only use the standard european thread for either butane or propane [ like the 4.5 Kg calor dumpy butane ]
    isn't there anyone else in the uk selling propane with the normal thread , and perhaps a decent sized butane as well ..there must be several brands available , surely
     
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    lebesset Read Only Funster

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    does no response mean there aren't any other brands of gas in the uk , or am I just being precipitate :Smile:
     
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    Hi , in the UK all brands of Propane have the same fitting (left PSP thread)
    adapters are available to convert to UK bayonet LPG fitting.
    Bottle are available in sizes from 6-18 kilos
     
  4. madbluemad

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    Hi Lebesset.

    We use auto gas directley from the the garage pump. Ive never had a problem and so have never investigated the alternatives.

    I have an arv and so I use an adapter between the pump and the gas tank. There are people on here that are quite good on gas etc. If you dont get a response try a search, there have been a number of threads on the forum re this subject.

    Jim

    :Smile:
     
  5. lebesset

    lebesset Read Only Funster

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    thanks all , I ran on lpg for 25 years so am familiar with all the systems and wrinkles

    just wanted to be able to bolt on a local bottle if I came to the uk ...seems I can't except in n.ireland where they use the spanish system

    no problem really , will just fill my spanish bottle
     
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    precipitate

    Must try using that word. I'll have to write it down so that I can look it up when I get home.

    Jim

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  7. Terry

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    Hi you may need one of
    LPG Propane Autogas Gas bottle filling adapter 'DELUX' on eBay (end time 22-Nov-09 01:11:47 GMT)
    or
    LPG Propane Autogas Gas red bottle filling adapter No V on eBay (end time 11-Nov-09 23:44:04 GMT)
    these fit UK TYPE BOTTLES
    It is best you fit the adapter to your bottle before going into the garage and leave the bottle in the gas locker to fill as it is not as acceptable to fill bottles in the UK as in other places abroad :thumb:
    :Rofl1::Rofl1: THE ADAPTERS ARE GETTING CHEAPER :Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1::thumb:
    terry
     
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    quite right jim

    mustn't go rushing headlong into something :Rofl1:

    and terry , had one turned from a piece of solid brass bar 30 years ago ! presume the ones you list are for uk propane bottles which , as stated , I don't use
     
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    Is there an adapter that will allow Propane tanks to be fitted to Butane connector?
     
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    cheaper to just change the regulator to propane.
     
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    Thanks Roger!
     
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    Lpg

    Hi
    Does the Cylinder have to be completely empty?
    Is there a minimum fill amount (like the 4l or so for petrol)
    Is it 100% safe and legal
    How much is it at the pumps?
    Thanks
    Barry
     
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    Hi Barry, search on here for posts
    yes it is safer for the cyl to be empty :thumb:
    the jury is still out on legality :Rofl1:
    very safe if you follow the simple rules :thumb:
    48 p per litre
    about £3.50 to fill my 3.9 kg small propane bottle instead of £13.99 exchange :Rofl1::thumb:

    GAS ADAPTER
    There are no joints, pipes, knuckles valves or floats to go wrong or leak, just a simple well engineered adapter that screws onto your bottle
    Use a two bottle system ie 1 full to replace empty 1, just as you did years ago.
    Remember to refill only total empty bottles to avoid overfilling.
    Refill LPG bottles are only filled to 80% of total volume.
    One litre of LPG weights ca. 500 grams.
    13 kg bottle at 80% = 26 litres
    6 kg bottle @ 80 % = 12 ltrs
    3.9 kg bottle @ 80 % = 7.8 ltrs
    Calor gas on there web site even say that bottles can be filled up to 87 % so this will allow for any difference in temperatures!!!!
    Fasten the bottle in the van
    Fit adapter
    Open valve
    Fit filling gun turning 90 degrees C,Wise and lock on/cock
    Dispense required amount of gas (see above)
    Close valve
    Uncock turn 90 degrees anti CW,Disengage filling gun
    Replace gun into holder and pay for fuel
    Remove adapter and store for next use
    If you cannot follow these simple instructions then do not buy a filling adapter and carry on paying through the nose for refill bottles!!!
    If you can understand and follow the above then buy an adapter and start saving money

    terry
    lots of people say weigh the cylinder as well (I am not arguing about that )but if you can do the simple math then no need.I also leave my empty bottle open so that if there are/ is any residual gas it is defiantly empty
     
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    Discounts

    It says email for group discounts
    Could we not arrange for discounts for members who buy it?
    Thanks
    Barry
     
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    Hi Barry, most people will not even admit they have one :Eeek::Rofl1: so how are you going to get a bunch of people to to commit them self s to buying :Rofl1: just pay the twenty or thirty quid and don't cause yourself a headache (hence my crash helmet my 1st post) I paid about 35 for mine about 3 yrs ago
    terry
     
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    Ooer

    Sounds a bit dodgey to me? Not daring to admit you have one???????
    Can the calorlite be used just the same?
    Thanks
    Barry
     
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    If you read all the posts on them you will understand :Rofl1: yes you can use any that the adapters fit on so long as you do the sums/maths
    This is beginning to sound like it is me what's flogging them,I will have to nuy a few at 30 quid and sell them for 30 :Rofl1:
    terry
     
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    you dont say if you have a fixed bukhead regulator or does the regulator screw onto the botte top ?

    if it screws to the bottle its as easy to change the reg to a uk propane or butane regulator.

    about £5 ish and fits ANY calor uk bottle....either butane or propane but not both.

    if its fixed to the bulkhead you're stuffed unless you change the actual bottle connector stub on the pigtail.
     
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  19. lebesset

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    I have have an on board regulator since 1987

    I have only used rubber high pressure hoses

    I have never had a problem with the regulator blocking , but having had only eriba , hymer and tabbert they always fit in the correct place ie , as high as possible

    I have only had a standard european thread or , on my current vehicle , 2 standard threads with auto change [ I admit that doesn't work as intended because I keep my reserve bottle shut so that I know when the main bottle runs out , I use a camping gas reserve which generally lasts 2-3 years and I am on the road up to 6 months normally ]

    apart from uk I don't have to even think about gas

    btw , do not under any circumstances change the bottle connector stub on the pigtail , they must be sealed units ; change the entire pigtail , that way you will still be insured as well as safe

    I use a repsol main bottle and can change easily in southern france/ spain/portugal ; elsewhere I fill it myself

    in other words , I use the kiss principle
     
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    Ooops...a senior moment and one that shouldnt have happened.:Eek!:

    i was forgetting the reg is AFTER the pigtail so said pigtail will be at full bottle pressure:Doh:

    note to self......think before opening gob:Blush:
     
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