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  1. WynandJean

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    It looks like the locals thought it was a 'back door' application for a traveler site
     
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    I don't think it will give the C&CC and the CC too many problems. When the club heard about the local opposition they decided not to recommend/implement the site license.

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    Exactly. So will this lead to greater difficulties for anyone submitting plans. Also will there be other submitions for backdoor gypsy sites I wonder?


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    Got it in one.
     
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    As I understand it. The c&cc decided not to licence it as a site after being made aware of local opinion. It begs the question, will other attempts be made to create gypsy sites under the guise of CLs/ CSs?


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    Yes, but do you need planning permission for the bits they don't mention, like increased vehicle access, possible need for a sceptic tank etc??
     
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    Vehicle access (in Scotland at least) is part of the planning process, the septic tank is covered by building regulations and SEPA (or environment agency).
     
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    Unlike France where heavy trucks must be off the road at certain times, our highways and byways do not the large truck parks dotted around most towns that could be adapted into Aires. It is however, high time that a government ministry, with an interest in tourism, canals, parks and gardens or what have you, looked seriously at encouraging amenities like Aires. It could happen, for over the years we have adopted many other features of road and travelling ideas from France since we seem to lack the confidence of initiative over here.
     
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    I do not think it is confidence that is lacked in England..
    I DO think it is a whole lot of NIMBY behaviour and fear of the unknown ..
    There is also the aspect that a lot of camp sites are owned by people who sit on councils ( it is the nature of the system that someone with a bit of bread and time seem to end up on councils ) and as such are very reluctant to allow such things as low cost or god forbid free places to use instead of their own, oft over priced, sites
     
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    So much for the "friendly" site !:whistle2::whistle2::whistle2:
     
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    There needs to be a change in the law so Gypsies and travellers can be immediately moved on by the police if they trespass. Once these are properly under control then perhaps the populace will be less concerned about genuine motorhomers. Still won't stop selfish campsite owners objecting though!
     
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    While agreeing with you do you think most of the populace don't see any difference between mhs and " travellers "
     
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    I think so. "Travellers" tend to arrive in groups be abusive and leave a mess whilst motorhomers usually have well cared for vehicles, are polite and often leave the place cleaner than when they arrived.

    When we stop in a lay-by I try to pick up a bit of litter before we move on.
     
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    We know that, but do others?
     
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    Well if they see me picking up litter wearing a hi-vis vest I hope so..... and I make a point of chatting to people in cafes, shops and so on letting them know we are motorhomers and on holiday. Most people are friendly in return. Perhaps it also helps if you look clean and smart?

    I've never had anyone be rude or call me a traveller - so far.
     
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    Neither have I but we are talking about plans to have sites next to people's homes who have probably never had anything to do with either mhs or travellers apart from what they have read
     
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    Let's hope that not everyone is a NIMBY at heart!
     
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    Well we have had a few Funsters come by here and say "hello". Some even come back :)

    When I suggested having a BritStop or similar at a development planned for the future in the village it was greeted with enthusiasm by all - one resident (not known for hos go-ahead attitude) said "Oh, motorhomers are usually older people who would have an interest or interest in our history and it's all about footfall in these visitor places..... sounds like a good idea!" There is a long way to go before the development goes ahead but the residents are hoping to make a go of things. Another local land owner is investigation a CS / CL on his land and that has also had a cautious thumbs up - very surprised as usually it is hands up in horror when ANYTHING is suggested!

    Of the 20 houses here (17 occupied at present) 3 have motorhomes outside :)
     
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