Peugeot Boxer Water Ingress on Engine

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  1. Teasy2007

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    Could anybody tell me if Peugeot and Fiat have agreed a fix on the water ingress problem on the engines of their newer models??

    We bought an extended silver screen, which effectively covers the holes when we are stood, but obviously not when we are travelling. I have heard that Fiat were agreeing a fix, but have heard nothing about Peugeot models.

    Mike
     
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    Reading another forum there may be a engine guard which fits both Fiat and yours have you spoken to your Dealer.
     
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    Hi Mike,

    There are a number of Fiat recalls, injector cleaning, flash upgrade, power steering grease, power steering pipe clamp and an engine cover if you insist on it.

    To stop the water ingress, make sure the centre join on the scuttle is sealed, thats where the water mainly gets in and runs down the plate under the join onto the engine and collects in the injector bases. OK it shouldnt happen but there are recalls on it.

    Check with your local Fiat/Peugot Service Centre and your suppplying MH dealer.

    Regards
     
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    Hiya Mike

    Had our Fiat done last November, also have an extended TaylorMade screen so don't really know yet just how effective the fix has been, although i have to say that our local Fiat dealer (Platts of Longton) seem to have done a very neat job.

    Van is booked in for it's first annual service at the end of next month & we're having the engine cover fitted at the same time, these were not available for the 3.0l engines early November.

    JCM is right, the engine covers aren't offered to you, you have to ask......... i did so politely & was told no problem.

    Just checked the worksheet for the recall work we had done (7 jobs in total) & there is no official code & no mention at all of the scuttle work we had done. The only reference to water ingress relates to the wiper motor.

    Fiat recall codes :
    5219 Steering rack lubrication
    5221 Injector corrosion protection
    5222 ABS control unit cover
    5223 Wiper motor water ingress
    5247 ECU flash update
    5248 Incorrect starter fuse

    Prolly not much help to you & your Peugot, but at least you know what's been made available over on the Fiat side of the fence.

    Bryan
     
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    Hi again, thanks for all your great information. I have contacted Matthewman's, our local Peugeot dealer and they booked it in with no problems, and no charge. I will make sure they check the other items you told us about at the same time.

    We bought the Tailormade long silver screens specifically to cover all the vents, but a proper fix is a much better idea, if it will solve the problem altogether.

    Thanks again

    Mike

    >:):thumb:
     
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    Today I have received a letter from VOSA saying that under the terms pof the code of practice on vehicle safety Defects that Vosa now have sufficient evidence to warrant an action against peugeot to take necessary action to correct the defects.

    At last i know Fiat have helped their customers but Peugeot refused to fit engine covers and keep saying the problem is cosmetic Well VOSA do not agree to that spin so I hope now the problem gets resolved totally.:thumb:
     
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    Peugeot Problems

    Thanks for the information Buccaneer, do you have any news on the other faults identified on the Fiat? Although our local Peugeot dealer did a fantastic job on the water ingress, they did know about the other faults highlighted by the previous post.

    Is there any way of finding out whether problems identified on the Fiat will be the same on the Peugeot?

    Mike
     
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    Is there any way of finding out whether problems identified on the Fiat will be the same on the Peugeot?

    Mike
    Yesterday 03:41 PM


    I do not know some will be checked when you take your van in depending on chassis number,a cover was fitted over the ABS unit and there has been a check on handbrakes but thay was on very early models.
    In my completed form/report I also wrote about reverse judder.

    The big problem was the water ingress and now VOSA take that as a safety problem, part of this is also water coming through the wiper spindles.

    Once this is finally resolved the base Peugeot Boxer 111 is a very good machine.

    The BIG problem was/is Peugeots customer care or do we now call this customer sales prevention because the way we have been lied to and spun many different lines does not sit right with a major motor company,if they had been honest put their hands up and told the truth then I would have repected them.
    You should not need to get other parties like VOSA involved.

    The VOSA contact numbers came from a ferocious Scottish lady on another forum so she must take some credit.
     
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  9. Us2&thedog

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    Push Peugeot for Fix

    Just taken my 08 reg Boxer to dealer for water ingress problem. The guy said, in all fairness, that most Boxers end up as builder's vans or white van man's transport and they generally don't give a monkey's about what happens under the bonnet therefore it's not until a motorhome owner complains that they are aware of a problem. They couldn't fix water problem there and then but did upload (or maybe it was download) new software to engine E.C.U. (supposed to make the engine run smoother) but have arranged for the motorhome to go in for a day to have the offending 'gutter' bonded to bottom of windscreen and the joint in the middle to be sealed. Also a quick fix is to check that the blue mud filter on the driver's end of the gutter is clean and fixed in properly. The one on mine was about two inches above the gutter. Watch this space, but at present full marks to Peugeot dealer Crawley Down Motors in Crawley for their assistance.
     
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    peugeot boxer water ingress

    hello all felt I had to join in this, only picked up new Starburst two weeks ago and went outside this afternoon when it was tipping down, lifted bonnet and sure enough water pouring in. rang local peugeot dealers who said they were unaware of problem so rang Peugeot customer (dont)care who said they should be blah blah and gave me number of another dealer who I rang, and guess what, they knew nothing about it either so I told them wot Customer (dont)care told me ie look at Dealer network go onto "Service box" then "info flashes" where there was full info -which he did? again no info n couldn't help me because he wouldn't be paid by Peugeot for work so back to Customer (couldn't give a s***) care who "no sorry can't ring dealer but dealer could ring them" sooo back to dealer who said he would ring you know who and he would then ring me back n guess what - he didn't. have now emailed Fleetcare@peugeot asking for explanation and solution but won't hold me breath. anybody got any thoughts, would like particularly to hear from Mr Swift:Angry:
     
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    water ingress /recall jobs on PEUGEOT BOXER

    Hi folks, why is it some people can get dealers to admit to probs on Peugeot boxer based motor homes and others cannot get the dealers to admit anything at all?
    Firstly ,can any one come up with exactly which years are affected?
    Secondly, can anyone come up with the relevant info on what exactly VOSA is doing about this ignorant ,stick your head in the sand, company called Peugeot?
    I have recently spoken to Peugeot couldnt care less service at the head office and they would not even admit to there ever being a problem on the water ingress and there are certainly no recalls at all in operation.
    Our van is a 2005 boxer based unit with the 2.2 hdi fitted and the injectors have gone rusty but I have kept everthing sprayed with a rust preventative since new so the damage is not too bad and I have not seen water getting in to this area when lifting the bonnet in wet weather. If I was in charge of the country! The first thing I would do is order a massive shake up in the caravanning/motor homing industry to make it more accountable to its customers!
    I cannot think of another industry that treats its' customers with such distain/contempt once they have taken your money. Sure, there are a few good dealers out there,mostly smaller family run concerns, but I would say from my dealings with some concerns ,Peugeot included, the majority of us are getting the run around. As a closer my mate has had probs with his fairly new peugeot CAR and has had work done with the utmost courtesy and speed. Regards Badger1 :Angry:
     
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    Water Ingress on Peugeot Boxer

     
  13. worky

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    water ingress - success at last!

    well at last getting some positive work done re water ingress on my Starburst.
    went into Warners of Tewkesbury on Sat expecting engine cover (3Ltr) and scuttle fix, only had cover fitted because they hadn't been authorised to do scuttle as well so big disappointment but got straight onto Peugeot customer care and today received ok to take motorhome back in on Friday to have proper job done on scuttle and window seal. It seems the only way to get something done is to nag,nag and nag some more. By the way can thoroughly recommend Paul McGee of Warners who was very helpful and sympathetic :thumb:
     
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    A further chapter in this saga.
    I have been in contact with the local Peugeot dealer since buying our MH nearly 12 months ago. I have made regular contact to discuss the ongoing problems with the water ingress. Each time they would say waiting for Peugeot.
    So I took steps to make sure the problem did not cause any further damage. Spraying copious amounts of WD40 on various pasrts of the engine & under bonnet items has so far protected it. A peice of guttering fastened to the top of the engine caught the water that dripped through the scuttle & directed it away to the side.
    Last week time for a service, so together with info from the forums booked in to have recall items done, as code YLH recall, plus service.
    Picked up today & disapointed to find no work done on water ingress. Called dealer to find out what is going on.
    The recall jobs were carried out in accordance with instructions supplied by Peugeot based on chassie number.
    It seems that some chassis numbers are to be fixed but others are not, but only Peugeot could axplain why if they chose to!
    Our chassis number indicated no work on water ingress, apart from fitting covers to various parts to protect them from the water. Not the engine though.
    So back to dealer ... whats going on?
    "Sorry but only did as Peugeot instructed. Bring back again next week and we will fix, at our cost. Why don't Peugeot get their act together & just do it for all owners, we don't know" said the dealer.
    So there appears there is a conspiracy only fix the ones belonging to the most complaining customers.
    Maybe some dealers are at fault but they clearly have issues with Peugeot as well.
    Incidently the dealer, David Hayton from Carlisle, said in their opinion the design is at fault, & knew about the problem, & would fix it for us.
    I have nothing but praise for the dealer who I think has been very fair with us.
    I will post the outcome next week & see if the dealer is a good as his word. :thumb:

    Sorry this has been such a long post.:Eek!:
     
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  15. atcoTom

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    1995 model Boxer

    Have you any knowledge of water ingress affecting this early model and, if so, is there any solution ?

    Many thanks
     
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  17. torita

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    water ingress

    after many moans to dealers and customer care peugot i have just had my boxer water ingress prob done,ie-- cover to bottom of windscreen,plates on engine,and a pipe from the brkt to rear of engine. we will see over time what this does:Smile:.
    i have it on good authority that peugot will only do this work if the customer keeps on moaning at them,so keep at em whenever you can
     
  18. Diabalo

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    it's not just Peugeot, Fiat will only do it if requested. Had mine done earlier part of this year and it solved the prob:thumb:
     
  19. keith

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    What "good authority" did you consult to gain this info?
     
  20. john jones

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    Having the same problem with our Peugeot Boxer Autocruise Starblazer. Have been in touch with Peugeot UK who say that it is an inherent problem. Taking
    the motorhome to the garage tomorrow who are trying to sort it out.

    John
     
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