Peterborough - Possibly had my Card Scammed

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  1. canopus

    canopus Funster Life Member

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    Just a cautionary note to warn others. Checked my online bank statement this evening after making a couple of purchases at Peterborough Show. Also withdrew some cash out at the show from one of these £1.75 charge cash machines adjacent to the Campers site shop, but didn't notice anything unusual.

    I noticed on my statement that my two purchases were there but in-between the genuine purchases were three amounts of £490 and two more pending at £496. These were all in the name of NW Card Services. So the bastards have had £2462

    After spending 1.5 hours on the phone my bank will be re-imbursing me in full, including the two pending transactions which they are powerless to stop.

    SO BE WARNED - I recall something similar at Peterborough Show in previous years
     
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    Sounds like the atm machine was scammed, do you coveryour hand when you enter PIN?
    I am not criticising, just curious.
     
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    The atm was in a corridor and only my wife was present
     
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    I remember reading here of the same happening last year. Wasn't it something to do with the wifi for ca d payments on stands? The signal involving the card information was somehow intercepted, like the card readers on contactless ?
    Glad you got it sorted with the bank though.
     
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    Suggest you make Warners aware of this - it may be something they are not aware of and need to check before they use the site again ... something fishy going on me'thinks.
     
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    Sadly, the scam works by using a camera fitted to the machine, watching your hand, and a 'card skimmer' which reads the number. The scammers will retrieve the device later and marry PIN's to card numbers.
    @Hollyberry contactless only works up to £30, so I guess that is not the issue in this case.
    The transactions are all under £500, the usual limit on an ATM, which leads me to suspect the ATM machine. So this is a very useful post for all those who attended the meet.
     
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    yet again
     
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    I think this may be correct. We had our card scammed and the only purchase at the time was from a stall at the Malvern show.
     
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    I used the ATM at the show. No mystery withdrawals yet.
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    I think it is coincidental.

    We had a call from our bank whilst at a Peterborough show 2 years ago. The transactions in question were a day or two previous to our Peterborough purchase.
     
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    It happened at Malvern year before last after paying on a trader mobile card machine. Quite a few were victim but my bank is on the ball and no transactions went through. It's definitely done wirelessly IMHO
     
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    I didn't mean that to sound dismissive.

    The show would be a prime target for card skimmers. Lots of rich retirees, not too techno-savvy, with big bank balances primed to spend big on a new motorhome.

    If I was a card fraudster, I'd be there too!
     
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    I don't think they need to brave the Peterborough weather. Seems they can clone cards without ever having sight of them. I had dodgy withdrawals made on a card that had never left my desk. In fact, it was still stuck to the letter with that gunk they use. Thousands of frauds every day, I'm sure they could stop them, but they make so much money they want to keep the cards easy to use. They write the fraud off with a smile. It's peanuts compared to their profits
     
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    When ours was cloned 'at the Peterborough Show', it was in fact only one of a huge batch of compromised cards.
    The bank wouldn't admit it, but it must have been their security lapse, not ours.
     
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    Sorry to hear this. Its great you managed to sort out and get reimbursed, its the hassle factor and stress that you don't need.

    To try to limit any one taking large sums if they get details to my card I have a card that I keep with just around the £250 on and no overdraft allowance. Its easier enough to transfer money to it when I need to. Same as if we are out for the night its the only card I take.
     
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    Safest way is to tell the wife that you have forgotten your cards and you only have £50 cash in your pocket. That will stop all this card fraud at shows and make for a happy weekend.(y)
     
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    Correct. It was 2014 when a number of cards (including mine) were compromised and the initial problem appeared to be on-line bookings with Warners (not usage at Peterborough or any other show). I followed it up as far as the Payments Council (which also represents The UK Cards Association) and they eventually admitted that the problem is caused by allowing transactions to be made using only the long card number (i.e. no PIN or CVV security code) to pander to some of their high volume users whose transaction throughput might suffer otherwise.
    Security comes a long way behind profit and, as far as the card issuers are concerned the inconvenience to customers of having to change cards is of no consequence.
     
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    Peterbough card cloning is this year's gassing!
    It's official!:D
     
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    They picked the wrong guy when they did yours Graham(y)
     
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    Yes, mine was cloned when I purchased an A Frame but was unable to gain compensation as the bank told me that A frames were illegal anyway :whistle2:
     
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