Payload, how much for our first motorhome ?

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  1. Spanner

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    We're looking for our first 2 berth motorhome and need a bit of advice regarding payload or lack of it.
    We're considering a secondhand Autosleeper El Duo but the max payload of 277KG doesn't seem very generous especially when it's already fitted with a towbar and satellite system, by the time we add a passenger say 75KG I suspect we're left with approximately 125KG for everything else to stay under 3500KG which doesn't seem very much. I don't fancy the option to upgrade the GVW and are also considering a secondhand Bessacarr 540 which has a heavier 370KG payload.
    Any advice would be most welcome.

    Chris & Jane
     
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    pappajohn Funster Life Member

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    Sounds about right.

    Available user Payload is at the bottom of the converters list of priorities.
     
  3. webby1

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    I think you'll need more than you have to be comfortable. We had to upgrade to 3850kg or only one of us could have gone on the trip !!!!

    It was very easily done through Svtech although cost about £260------- someone has posted on here about doing it themselves(or with a different company) for a lot less. You can e mail them to check if your van is suitable and does not need any alterations.
     
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  4. Spanner

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    Hello, thanks for your comments and we'll look into the weight upgrade route. We won't be carrying any bikes or towing anything but we can see the benefit of a towbar to protect the rear end !
     
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    My van plated at 3500 kg had 580 kg payload, I upgraded to 3850 kg as were always on or over the limit, we don't carry much junk & don't have an awning.
     
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    Our bespoke PVC has a payload of approx 350Kg, 2 leisure batteries, Fiamma awning and probably a bikecarrier when the calculation was done.
    I'd get rid of the towbar if you won't use it
    regards,
    alan b
     
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    Look for as big a payload as you can. We had to uprate ours to 3700kg. Benefits are cheaper tax and a 500+kg payload.
     
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    Thanks for the good advice based on your experiences, looks like the Autosleeper is out of the running.
     
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    There are a lot of vans in the 3500kg class that are very optimistic about their payloads. When I weighed ours, it was very close to what it was designed to be, giving an original payload of around 300kg. There are some vans that are very close to their maximum weight limit straight out of the factory.
    Uprating the van is generally a paper exercise and costs around £320 from SVTech.
    Just make sure the chassis is suitable, plenty of info on here about people's experiences with uprating.
     
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    Be aware of the fact that it is not just a case of uprating and then being able to carry all the things you want. Weight distribution is equally important: each axle has a maximum weight allowance.

    We uprated our van to 3800kg, not because we were overweight but because we were always too close to feel comfortable. We still have to be very careful that we don't overload the rear kitchen with tins and water bottles as that would tip the rear axle over its limit.
     
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    Hymer B644 Garage model.

    4 berth, fixed transverse double bed and pull down over cab bed.
    Double floor with storage between
    Fully winterised , all services, fresh and grey tanks between floors .

    Length 7mt ,

    Unladen weight 3000 kg

    Payload 1000 kg

    MAM 4000 kg


    NB> Some may have been downplated to 3,500kg

    Some photos Here
     
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    Only way to know what you have is to weigh van. 270 kg pathetic to be honest
     
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    and don't presume bigger is going to give you more, we bought a 8m twin axled Hymer with max weight of 5 tons, I happily drove around smugly thinking we had masses of spare, no need to get weighed

    Decided I really should do, and with only half fuel and no other half we were 5200kg!!

    Now replated to 5500kg, but still not got the smugness back :)
     
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    And if it's a van you have yet to buy, make sure you're present when it's weighed. Not that I'm suggesting that anyone would seek to mislead you, of course.;)

    BTW I have a lovely van for sale with a payload of around 800 kg - see link below. We have frequently used all of that available payload and I wouldn't entertain anything like the figures in the OP.
     
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    One of the first things we do before the first trip of the year is to load the van with everything we usually carry, fill with fuel and half a tank of water and then go to the weighbridge. We have it weighed with us inside and both axles on a flat plate bridge at a local goods yard.

    So far so good with the Chausson, when we get the SunLiving in April we will do the same :)

    The Chausson is plated at 3500kg, the new van 3650kg.
     
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    Same with us except we have to be careful with garage loading, after upgrading we are still on the limit with the rear axle when we carry extra water in the garage.
     
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