Parking meter wardens

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  1. Tony Roberts

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    Why are British parking meter wardens so officious?

    We have just spent 7 months on the continent, not once did we come across a parking meter warden taking an interest in our van. We don't fit into a normal , we park at the furtherest corner of car parking lots and only we they are not full.

    First day in the UK and we get a 50 pound ticket - for taking up more than one bay. Second day we would have got another if I had not talked nicely to the two wardens that were sitting in their van about to write me one.

    Do they work on commission?

    It seems nonsensical to ticket a vehicle that has paid the parking fees and is not affecting any other vehicles.

    This over-population of parking wardens really is a British phenomenon/affliction that could be readily solved by dismissing them all.

    On a lighter note the UK countryside is fantastic. We have worked our way up through Essex, East Anglia, Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Lincolnshire (what a magnificent cathedral) and Yorkshire. The Yorkshire Moors have been a highlight, in fact all of Yorkshire from Robin Hood Bay and Whitby through to Great Ayton.
    We will just stay out of parking lots.
     
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  2. tonyidle

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    I suspect (but I don't know for sure) that parking enforcement on the Continent is still the responsibility of Local Authorities who allow their employees to use common sense. Most if not all UK Local Authorities contract-out parking enforcement to private companies. Their employees are paid on 'results' and they have 'targets' and are allowed no discretion. Hence the difference. The UK used to use Local Authority employees and common sense and discretion was rife - but no more.
     
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    The answer is that they are not. They just have a job to do enforcing a parking regime that has demands far different from other countries and varies even within this country. See my web site for information.
    Wrong on so many counts. The majority of LAs still use their own employees, none of which work on "results" or "targets". That has been a myth for years which resulted in many FoI requests in the early years of FoI over 10 years ago

    If you can find any LA which has contracted out the job and allows "results" or "targets" in its contract I'd be very interested.
     
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  4. Tony Roberts

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    Your use of the word 'regime' says it all. There is not one other country in Europe or Oceania that has the same zealous approach to dispensing parking tickets as the UK. I wonder if that contributes to the absence of foreign registered motorhomes in the UK.
     
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    The UK is not zealous in dispensing parking tickets. I have never had one.


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  6. GJH

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    I used "regime" in its sense of "system" not "government".
    I wonder, is there one other country in Europe or Oceania that has the same problems of congestion, combined with the ignorance and selfishness of some motorists?
    This story was in our local paper a couple of days ago and is an illustration of the problems car park owners can face. Note the comments of some freeloaders:
     
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    I've only ever had a couple of for overstaying the time I paid for and I can't complain about them at all.

    If the requirements of the car park are signed properly and you don't read them or read them and decide to ignore them then you have no valid argument when you get a ticket.

    If you think, and can show that, the requirements aren't signed correctly then appeal the ticket. If you're correct you will win.
     
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    Interesting that it's Morrisons. The one in Kettering used to be pay and display, operated by them, but for some reason best known to themselves they decided to switch the machines off a couple of years ago. Now the car park is usually crammed full with the hospital staff using it instead of paying for their own onsite parking and freeloaders using it while they shop in the town. If you want to go there to actually use the store you're lucky to find a space.
     
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    likewise..

    those who get a ticket deserve it ... can they not read, can they not drive between white lines.. (no need to answer)

    every day I see lazy arses who can't park in the middle of two lines, or parking at an angle, thereby depriving someone else of the full space... one of my pet hates .. sometime's wish I had an old banger to park up against them.. :mad:

    we need more parking enforcement.. not less..

    tons of pics like this on the web, see it at any supermarket carpark

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  10. Lot lover

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    Why are British motorists unwilling or unable to obey the rules?

    If your vehicle occupied more than one bay why were you too mean to buy just one ticket? If you took two cars into the same car park would you pay for just one of them?

    Why did you commit the same offence on day 2? A fine of only £50 is plainly no deterrent for hard core criminals.:devil:
     
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    My MH is 7.3 m long so too big for 1 bay ,I just have to pay for 2 .
    Simples.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with the first picture; everyone knows that is how that make of car should be parked. I believe it is a requirement of the purchase agreement.

    The second picture shows a selfish tw*t, someone who should learn to park or the result of someone who couldn't park properly because of other vehicles that have since left. Take your pick.
     
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    Unfortunately though if your van takes up two spaces and u pay for 2 in the UK still fined as it crosses the lines ! Explain ? As you know in France 2 spaces no problem !! Mind you there are some terrible French car parkers too !!
     
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    It's in the same package that comes with every new Beama together with the video 'How to drive like a (k)nob'
    :)
     
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    Wrong on count one. To say they are not officious is too much a generalisation. Some may be, som may not be. For example I stopped n my car in a road which although it had double yellow lines is only a side road with little use. I had stopped to let a passenger out, I was causing no obstruction or inconvenience or danger to other road users and as my passenger walked away I was immediately approached by a community safety person who approached my drivers window and simply said "no stopping here" I had not stopped my engine and said Ok and just as I started to close the window the safety chap said "move right now because I am going to start writing a ticket." I moved off and as I passed the same location I saw the CSO charting with the driver of a mini cab who had been stopped behind me then walk off leaving the mini cab where it was.

    I had know the CSO in my previous career when he was a traffic warden and he had the reputation of being officious, even to the point of trying to get unmarked police cars engaged on covert surveillance to move and having to be told in no uncertain terms what to do with his tickets.

    Whilst of course it's right that they have much needed job to do, especially in busy towns, it is certainly the case that some may be officious and display a lack of flexibility and discretion or use those qualities incorrectly.
     
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    Morrisons are not the only company that has such problems but I'm surprised they removed the restriction you mention as they are normally introduced to deal with just such problems.
    The rules about using multiple spaces and being within the lines vary between car park owners (both LAs and private landlords) but it is almost always easy enough to obtain the information for any given car park.
     
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    You are right, I agree that some are officious - it is wrong to generalise either way. That is no different to life in general though is it? Plenty of officious people in other walks of life :)
     
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    Sorry but the job seems to attract a certain type in this country, I used to take a reasonable amount of cash every week in my business, the bank advised as we live in a rural area & every one knows who's who, it would be better to stop outside the bank (Double Yellow) so that Mrs D could use the lower door (about 5 mtr walk) I could then go & park after she had gone into the bank, I got told by the officious warden it no concern of his whether you got mugged but he'd nick me if he saw me doing it again!!!! Complete & total asshole :mad:
     
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    Not exactly busy is it Jim.

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    I value my car doors far more than taking two spaces and getting moaned at.
    I've seen folks throw open their doors without a care in the world they just dented the car next to them....usually kids but often adults alike.
     
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    Doesn't matter if it's busy or not John,
    .. If we all parked like that it would reduce parking by 50% .. and in any case, the picture shows a lazy arse... it's not an expensive car .. just an old banger..

    sadly, in carparks dings and dents are inevitable.. I try to park away from others in a quiet corner.. but not using two spaces..
     
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