outside socket ?

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  1. beachcaster

    beachcaster Read Only Funster

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    I want to run an outside socket......... somewhere on the outside of the van
    to plug in SWMBO's new electric bike charger when we are away....would also be generally useful.:Smile:
    We mainly stay on sites with EHU........So perhaps a spur from the existing 13 amp mains to perhaps underneath the motorhome...perhaps switchable
    and waterproof............any thoughts before I get it sorted.

    my next door neighbour is a qualified electrician and he will do it for me .but I prefer to go to him with some properly thought out ideas and suggestions for gear.

    barry
     
  2. jonandshell

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    There's bound to be something in the NCC standards about doing that. It probably involves extra ventilation holes and having it switch off if you start the engine!:BigGrin:

    It might well be worth waiting for a sensible reply from one of our traders!:thumb:
     
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  4. Johns_Cross_Motorhomes

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    http://www.johnscross.co.uk/bullfinch-electric-outlet-point.html

    How to do it !
    Bullfinch Electric Outlet Point

    Bullfinch Electrical outlet point for Caravans and Motorhomes, bring power out of your van with this electrical outlet socket.
    Ideal for:

    • power tools
    • electrical appliances up to 13 amp rating
    • lighting
    • TVs and other leisure products
    Note the following features:


    • IP55 protection against water & dirt ingress when plug inserted & lid closed
    • innovative, attractive design
    • high quality for a long reliable life
    • compact
    • lightweight
    • easy to fit - requires 105mm cutter and 4 self tapping screws; easy to attach inlet cable
    • well styled
    • further versions available for plugs for other countries (eg European, USA, Australia)
    • also available - same housing but fitted with 12volt (Cigar lighter fitting)) / Satellite / TV connections - ideal for touring caravans , motorhomes, etc.
    You will require a 105mm cutter to create the orifice.

    It is also supplied with 4 fixing screws.

    General information


    • External 220/240V 13A electric socket for mains electric accessories including TV’s, computers, games consoles power tools, mowers etc (dependent on power rating of appliance).
    • Recessed socket allows cover to be closed over inserted plug.
    • IP55 waterproof protection - Weatherproof (to the requirements of IP 55 dust and water ingress) with cover closed and plug fitted.
    • Robust and durable – manufactured from high quality materials.
    • Easily installed using a core drill.
    • Well designed and compact.
    • Cover has positive latching in open and closed position.
    • Can accommodate most standard 13A plugs whilst maintaining seal.
    • Low profile installation.
    • Simple installation procedure, cut a Ø105 mm hole with a core drill and affix with self tapping or similar screws

    Bullfinch Electric Outlet Point Technical information: for 13 A Electric Outlet Point (Socket)

    • 250V ac rating
    • Standard UK 13A 3 pin socket (other socket versions available eg. U.S, Europe, etc.)
    • Electric components to BS 1363 where applicable
    • Plastic parts made of high quality materials with long-term UV resistance
    • Total sealing between device and wall of prefabricated structure
    • Total sealing between cover and body even with plug fiteed
    • Dimensions – 125 x 140 x 58 (deep) mm
    • Weight – 242 gms
    • Main body and Cover: - Polycarbonate 30% reinforced with glass fibre
    • Hinge pin and screws: - stainless steel
    • Seals: - UV and ozone resistant silicone rubber
    • Wall gasket: - UV and ozone resistant EPDM
    [​IMG]
     
  5. JockandRita

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    Hi Barry,

    Because I didn't want to drill a hole in the side of the MH bodywork, I bought >>one of these<< from CAK Tanks. I just swapped the ends round, so that the 3 pin socket didn't damage the MH bodywork. It gives me an external socket if I need one, when plugged into EHU. When the awning isn't wound out, I find another method of keeping it dry. :Wink:

    Cheers,

    Jock.
     
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  6. Reallyretired

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    The only time we need this is that if its hot SWMBO likes to do ironing outside (I know, I've told her ironing is unnecessary but she doesn't listen)

    For this we just chuck an extension lead out of the window, plugged into the socket for the microwave which we removed.
     
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  7. cmcardle75

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    Basically, you just need an IP rated socket. There are loads out there with different characteristics. There will be differences in such things as:

    Price
    Double vs Single
    Switched/Unswitched
    IP rating level (minimum 66 for this application)
    Is IP protection maintained when in use?
    Physical size
    Colour

    Only you will know what is important to you. However, my choice was:

    http://www.screwfix.com/p/bg-nexus-13a-1g-switch-socket/35096

    Screwfix also do:
    http://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-13a-1-gang-dp-switched-plug-socket/30430
    http://www.screwfix.com/p/mk-masterseal-plus-13a-1-gang-switched-socket/30703

    All available in doubles also.

    As it is a vehicle, I'd connect using arctic flex, rather than 2+E solid cable.
     
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    I should mention that the Bullfinch one might be expensive, but it has the advantage of flush mounting if you want it mounted to the side, rather than underneath out of sight.
     
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    Better to have the 240V lump safe and dry inside and extend the nice safe 24V wires.
     
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    That's the set up I have mounted on the front of the box body between cab and box and as you say flex should be used on all vehicles as I understand it rather than solid twin & earth.
     
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    Mine came with an outside socket already fitted underneath.
    Very useful but a bit awkward to reach, have to get down and reach under, thinking of moving it so it is a locker space which would be more accessable.
    It looks as if it has been spurred of the ring main.
     
  12. pappajohn

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    just fit a bog standard 2 gang domestic socket and plastic backbox in an outside locker.
    the charger wires are thin enough to pass between the door seals without damage to either.
     
  13. jollyrodger

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    You may also try Coastline Campers they also do loads of flush fitted sockets for around £16 similar to those already mentioned

    :BigGrin:
     
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    or the good old fashioned version of the outside socket....been about for years and much cheaper at £12.50
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    whats up with posting links tonight, the forum software keeps converting to an internal link

    item number 221330848911
     
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  15. maxsdad

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    Removed the fridge lower external grill and fitted an external weather proof socket from b&q into the fridge 240v supply mounted in the space behind the fridge
    This cable also supplies one of the internal sockets so should have adequate supply.
    Bit of a faff having to remove the grill to use but its only occasional use and its underneath the awning.
    Considered cutting a small groove in the bottom of the vent so it can be replace when plugged in, but not had the bottle to do it yet might look a mess
     
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