Oradour-sur-Glane... (1 Viewer)

[Manxcat]

We were there in October, had been on our list of things to do for some years. Very pleased we made it although we will not revisit. It did occur to me that the EU project has done so much good for Europe, hope Brexit does not put things backwards.

 

[busby]

Mans inhumanity to man. I was in the forces but could never obey that kind of order!

Would be a difficult decision if disobeying meant the firing squad,,BUSBY,,,

 

[Manxcat]

This was SS, highly trained and motivated. Not run of the mill conscripts.

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[busby]

This was SS, highly trained and motivated. Not run of the mill conscripts.

Quite a few French amongst them..They were from Alsace which Germany annexed from France when they invaded,,,BUSBY,,

 

[tacr2man]

I went there about 16years ago , and with a caravan at that time
Whilst still a few miles away we found a parking area , and happened to come across a memorial "stone" with engraving IIRC
that mentioned an attack by resistance on a SS column that was en-route to northern France in response to the invasion and the Commanding officer who was very loved by his men was killed .
This would seem to be the explanation for the action of the SS.
I thought at the time that the "unexplained" description of the atrocity was not logical in respect of German military actions. JMHO

 

[Glandwr]

Can I suggest to those that intent to visit that they go to the village first and then the interpretation centre. The village is free to visit and I think it as part of its constitution it has to be.

A sketchy knowledge of what it is is enough. Then exit and reenter through the interpretation centre (you then pay your fee). You will then see how such evil can be done by human beings in the control of a very nasty movement.

Otherwise you are all horrored out by the time you get in the village.

Entrance the same, I think that there is a discrete right fork on the way in that will take you straight to the village.

Dick

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[scotjimland]

This is the closest motorhome parking, short walk to visiter centre , where we parked ..

45.93567,1.02489

This is the Aire de Camping-Car Oradour-sur-Glane (sitecode: 2533) . which is a bit further away .. better if staying overnight .

45.93567,1.02489

https://www.campercontact.com/en/fr...ng-car-oradour-sur-glane.aspx?filter=|&src=as

 

[sylvester1954]

When l last visited the site l noticed a number of Germans walking around the village and l wondered how awkward some of them must feel even though it was such a long time ago?
Also, as others have posted the same comment, there is a distinct lack of bird song in the village too.

 

[Lot lover]

When l last visited the site l noticed a number of Germans walking around the village and l wondered how awkward some of them must feel even though it was such a long time ago?

Our part of the Lot has a number of memorial plaques to locals murdered by the Germans en route to N France after D-Day. We tend not to see many German tourists. Cause and effect?

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[tacr2man]

When l last visited the site l noticed a number of Germans walking around the village and l wondered how awkward some of them must feel even though it was such a long time ago?
Also, as others have posted the same comment, there is a distinct lack of bird song in the village too.

If they are older Germans maybe some , and even some that were born after the war had a guilt complex about what they had no control over , but surprisingly even some very young Germans that I have spoken with still have a bit , but I think that is more down to the PC culture that exists in Germany (much like here) .
There seems to be a decline in birds in mainland Europe generally from my observation on last couple of trips ,particularly Germany anyone else feel this ?

 

[busby]

If they are older Germans maybe some , and even some that were born after the war had a guilt complex about what they had no control over , but surprisingly even some very young Germans that I have spoken with still have a bit , but I think that is more down to the PC culture that exists in Germany (much like here) .
There seems to be a decline in birds in mainland Europe generally from my observation on last couple of trips ,particularly Germany anyone else feel this ?

Big decline in UK,,BUSBY,,

 

[Glandwr]

Big decline here too. The one I miss most is the curlew, a wonderfully evocative call that would always tell me when I was home. Haven't heard them now for more than a decade.

Maybe to do with the decline in flying insects. Remember those country lanes at night with so many moths that it was like driving through a blizzard? Haven't seen that since the 60s.

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[tacr2man]

Surprisingly haven't noticed drop in types visiting our garden , even having to keep the chicks in till they get to a decent size as we've got an eagle (Kite ?)that drops in now and again ! Maybe a bit of paranoia ?

 

[chaser]

Didn't like to say this before but now the thread has widened out a bit, in the village itself there is nothing for birds to sing about as it is just ruins , not a lot of food about and people walking about all the time is not conducive to birds, but we have found there aren't a lot of birds anywhere in France like it is here, there was something on the tv the other night about changing habitat for birds here, but as one lot move out , others move in, it's how it's always been.