Older A class or newer Coachbuilt??

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  1. jaykay

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    Hi all,

    Getting close to having the capital to buy a new(to us) motorhome. We had an old Talbot a while back but want something around the £30k mark now. I would class us as total newbies though to be honest.

    We really want an Aclass, but you seem to get a lot more newer coachbuilt for the same money.

    The main priorities for us are Garage for bikes with fixed bed over, and a nice roomy lounge for four people. Wanting to do France and Spain on a regular basis.

    Thoughts and recommendations?
     
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    A class of for me, transverse bed over garage will give you a bigger lounge than two single beds.

    Niesmann and Bischoff are well built vans, I would prefer RWD so that means the Flair in the N+B range, available on Mercedes or Iveco or even Fiat FWD on older models, the garage will be taller on the flair compared to the Arto but the vehicle will be taller as well and will push you into class 3 on many tolls in France (if you use them). The other thing to remember is your payload if you want to stuff the garage with gear and then have 4 people in the van as well.

    Hymer are good vans as well of course.
     
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    As Funflair above. We have the same van. Had two Hymer A class before, and sold them straight away. Stick with quality marques, but most of all get the layout that you want.
    Phil
     
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    Thanks for the replies folks.

    Were pretty sure of the layout as we've been planning this for a while. Its more the decision on getting an older a class or or getting a newer coachbuilt such as an Autocruise for the same money.

    Has anyone had both?
     
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    A class have some service problems. Like custom windscreens, difficult to get at engines.

    C class you get spares much easier and easier to work on.

    The big advantage of the A class is the over seat drop down bed though a C class with over cab bed gets close.
     
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    Another factor to consider, all current A classes are of continental origin and have good winterisation qualities.
    That Brit built Autocruise will need work to make it fit for more severe winter use.

    If you want to be adventurous and go to cold places in winter, do consider this point!

    The Adria you linked to would be a good choice for year round trips.
     
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    I have a Adrian vision and find it excellent, Just one proviso, I had to increase to 3900 To make her useable, so check you empty weight
    now within reason I can fill her without going overweight, yes I have had her weighed,
    They are a solid built MH that drives very well especially the auto version,
    It originally ticked all our boxes and continues to do so,
     
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    Hi, had C class and A class now have a panel van, but if we go bigger again it would be another A class and made in Germany. (y) Bob.
     
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    Great feedback folks, keep it coming :)
     
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    On my 2nd niesmann - 6 years with the first 3rd year with the second, previously owned an autotrail for a year some years ago.

    The other big benefits of an a class

    usable garages

    better use of space

    2 made up beds - not turning cushions over.

    being able to see the view without having to crouch

    better insulation

    Normally better quality - more robust.

    On the downside they do tend to be heavier unless you buy a short or newer one.

    Ive cracked 2 screens in 9 years no hassle getting them changed and paid only the excess and no discernible impact on premiums.

    I have yet to see a british van that compares. only RS comes close but they re a bit big for my requirements.

    Jon
     
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    get yourself an A class just make sure is a German one.
    Should get a nice one for 30k
     
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    A class & german (warm!)
     
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    Having had coachbuilts and now a camper we've never actually owned an 'A' class however we have considered them in the past but didn't actually like driving them.

    It would also depend on how you intend to use it. =Most modern coachbuilts are 'fat', 2.3m wide and some newer ones are 2.35m - that is WIDE and although some 'A' classes are wide they are usually no more than 2.3m but there are some narrower ones to consider as well.

    Personally I wouldn't go for a 'fat' one again simply because we find the narrower width of our current camper, and even a previous coachbuilt, makes it much more relaxing to drive.

    Also, if you don't intend to use a drop down bed in the front IMV there's no point in having it and your budget could then allow you to get a coachbuilt with the same/similar layout in a much newer 'van.

    With a coachbuilt you need to also consider what comes with it - most don't have cab doors on both sides and the cost of insurance could be more due to the extra costs involved even for an older van.

    There are pros and cons for both type of MH so it might be best to decide HOW and WHERE you intend to use it which should help you come to a decision.
     
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    Hey Minx, good to see a local (ish) as I'm from Hull but live just over the bridge.

    We definitely want a drop down bed and a fixed rear bed as we have had a coach built in the past and hated making the beds up every night. We have kids as well so do want the space so were not cramped.
     
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    Nice to 'meet' another native too jaykay! We're in Cottingham now (one of the 'posh' villages ... or that's what it was before we got here!) but I was born and bred in Hull.

    I didn't realise you had sproglets so now understand the need for the extra space ... but a coachbuilt with a rear garage and overcab bed for the spoglets might still meet your needs.
     
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    Surely a coachbuilt has cab doors both sides as it is built on a standard van front end. A class might not have a cab door both or even any side. Dont know about insurance on coachbuilt but it not a lot for a £50K A class.
     
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