Obesity.

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  1. cydersyd

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    Have just watched a documentary on iPlayer BBC 3 regarding the medical problems associated with obesity and how it helps to bring on an early death.
    The programme showed an autopsy on an American woman in her early sixties who was five foot five tall and seventeen stone in weight.

    The pictures relating to the examination of the heart, lungs, kidneys and liver were graphic and not for the faint hearted, but the lessons to be learned about avoiding becoming obese were eye opening.

    I would think that watching this kind of programme would seriously encourage anyone to consider their diet to avoid an early demise.
     
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    maybe.. maybe not..

    healthy problems associated with lifestyle choices are well documented... smoking, alcohol abuse, obesity, .. all known causes of an early demise..

    but despite the warnings, people still make these choices.

    Addictions that can be very hard to give up.. if it were easy the tobacco and alcohol industry would collapse and fast food joints close overnight

    sadly many die wishing they had done something while they still had time ..

    some just live for the day..
     
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  3. Mattyjwr

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    Do you remember the issues in Rotherham when Jamie Oliver went to schools to change the unhealthy food served in schools for healthy options? Many parents complained and even passed fast food through the fences to their children who "wouldn't eat anything else" etc. It is people like that who contribute to the epidemic of obesity and "wont' be told what to do", even if people try in many different ways to advise them on how to live healthily.
     
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    Eating 'healthy' food makes you FAT !

    Saw a very interesting documentary, which exposes how eating a healthy diet can make you put on 6kg in just 2 months.

    You can get the DVD on Amazon
    That Sugar Film [DVD]


    Here's a trailer

     
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    I read recently that Dawn French who are is 5 feet tall, weighed 19 stone at her heaviest. Thankfully she seems to have lost some now.
    As for sugar...it's all those promoted low-fat products that have too much hidden sugar. I say cut out the sugar and then eat normally. Trouble is that means cut out the wine ! Oops do as I say not as I do:D
     
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    It depends on how you define "healhy". Many foods aimed at the health concious are not low in calories (such as Kellog's Special K) but eating a balanced diet and consuming the calories required for the activity of life that you lead is healthy. The ELMM diet is a great start.
     
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    Just read this today.. Scary..

    http://arstechnica.co.uk/science/20...ntists-skewed-dietary-guidelines-for-decades/

    Luckily I don't like sweet stuff at all. No sweets, cakes, biscuits or anything like that in my diet. Going to be looking again at the tinned foods I eat though.
     
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    You should watch the film

    You will be SHOCKED to learn that calories are not created equally, and that eating low fat and 'healthy' options hide dangerous amounts of fat causing ingredients.

    Watch the DVDs and decide for yourself
     
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    ive fought against food as long as i can remember.
    from not being able to pass up the offer
    of something to eat ,evan if i had just had a meal .!!!
    evan now ive got beneth morbidly obese to
    chubby if a packet of biscuits are opened
    they need eating ,

    ice cream i can eat all day

    if its in the fridge and snack type stuff
    thats got to be tried in case it goes off

    i just cant help myself

    doing a bit of diy at daughters flat ( renoveting really) shes left a packet of mc vite digestive nibbles had to try one(3 )
    have to leave some incase management gets told , its not as if i enjoy food as i have very few taste buds or sense of smell.

    gotta go them nibbles are staing at me again
     

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    Wine is OK on a low sugar diet, especially Prosecco and Red Wine.
    Beer is ok too
    As is my favourite Rum
    As the contain little or no Sucrose.
    It's the mixers that are the problem
     
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    Are you sure beer is ok?

    I drink too much of the stuff but don't eat much food good or bad and I am fat.
     
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    Beer is ok cos it's made from Maltose rather than Sucrose.
    However you can't ignore the calories.

    In avoiding sugar I've made the following changes to my diet.

    Swapped Fruit Juice at breakfast for Milk

    Swapped 'clusters' type breakfast cereal for Shreaded Wheat or Porridge Oats

    Swapped low fat yoghurt for full fat or Greek

    Stopped eating chocolate and Ice Cream (Mrs C is going to make some sugar free ice cream for me)


    I recently had a liver scan which showed I had 'fatty liver' and nothing was said at the time, but I nearly pooped myself when I saw the DVD
     
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    I haven't watched the DVD so apologies. However, I did state having a balanced diet but should have mentioned that consuming processed food is a significant contributor to obesity and cooking from scratch avoids many of the chemicals that lead to obesity. However, raw foods can also contain sugars that people overlook; a banana contains 90 calories. I would use that up in less than 9 mins of cycling but it would take 40 mins for that to be used when sitting down.
     
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    Like I said watch the DVD

    The guy in the film ate a 'healthy' diet which contained 40 spoons of sugar a day.

    Ps the DVD is not trying to sell anything
     
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    Is that only when not on holiday Mr C? I saw those ice creams in your Croatia thread!;)
     
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    I have a good friend that offers hypnotherapy to obese clients and she has a good success rate with helping them resist tempation and cutting their calories. However, one of her closest friends won't take up her offer even though her weight is having a significant impact on her health and happiness; I can only presume that the friend has underlying issues that the can't overcome before she is willing to tackle her weight issue.

    I have an aquintance who had a gastric bypass and she will come out for a meal and have a small bowl of soup as her meal and wash it down with up to 3 bottles of wine; she doesn't acknowledge that her current weight gain is down to wine :(
     
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    What did the diet consist of? I can't watch the film at the mo.
     
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    Only 1 small scoop
    Little or no sugar the rest of the day
    Still losing weight !!!!
     
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    It's not a diet as such
    It's about learning where hidden sugar is and avoiding it
    It's a bit controversial as it avoids fruit juice and some other 'healthy' foods.
    The interesting point it makes though is that calories from sugar are not equal to calories from fats or other carbs.

    Eg. Eat as much raw fruit as you need, because if contains loads of fibre too.
    Avoid fruit juice and smoothies as the fibre has been removed, leaving behind the sugar and little else.
     
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    It just shows that you can eat well and still lose weight, anyone following your posts will see that you do not go hungry.:rolleyes:
     
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