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  1. Johns_Cross_Motorhomes

    Johns_Cross_Motorhomes Trader - Motorhome & Accessory Sales

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    dieselveg mix

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    hi john

    just joined never been on a forum before,is their any info you can give me or direct me to someone who can regarding mixing veg oil with diesel to to help with travelling costs.
     
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    Hi be very carefull, read up on diesel bug as well as SVO
    check to see if your vehicle can run on veg oil without causing damage,
    you don't state what engine it is or which injector pump it has. for extensive info and usefull links see below
    Straight vegetable oil as diesel fuel: Journey to Forever
    http://www.elsbett.de/forms/ekit
    http://www.oillab.co.nz/diesel_bug_explained
    currently SVO from supermarkets is around £1.23ltr, is it worth the bother, recycled chipfat is much cheaper and biofuel from a reputable supplier may save money many options suitable for an older vehicle or biodiesel for nearly new ones, check with you dealer on warrentee situation before owt goes wrong.
    I have an old Mercedes with a Bosch injector pump and run on SVO
     
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    14 Reasons for using Bio-Diesel

    1; Biodiesel is an environmentally friendly fuel.
    2; Biodiesel is produced from renewable materials.
    3; Biodiesel contains practically no sulphur (0.001%).
    4; Biodiesel considerably decreases soot emissions (up to 50%).
    5; When burnt Biodiesel emits the same amount of Carbon Dioxide as plants absorb in growth.
    6; Biodiesel contains no benzene or other carcinogenic polyaromatic components.
    7; Biodiesel easily decomposes biologically and in the case of an accident no harm is done to the soil or ground water.
    8; Biodiesel is not considered a hazardous material (its flashpoint is above 110 degrees centigrade).
    9; Biodiesel has superior lubrication capabilities and increases engine life over time.
    10; Biodiesel is an ecologically beneficial alternative to conventional diesel fuels. It produces NO Greenhouse gasses therefore NO global warming.
    11; Biodiesel provides you or your business with a green image.
    12; Biodiesel can be blended and used in any diesel engine without modification (unless the vehicle is older than 13 years or has rubber fuel lines in which case all rubber hoses must be replaced).
    13; Tests have shown an increase in fuel economy of 8% in vehicles running on Biodiesel as it has a higher Cetane value than fossil diesel.
    14; Biodiesel saves you money (typically 8 - 10 pence a litre cheaper than normal fossil diesel) and it helps to save the planet.
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    Well said, but do remember not all cars can run safely on it. Check with the manufacturer
     
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    Would agree with Rogers Statement, but as mentioned, vehicles over 13 year old would need the old rubber hoses removing and replacing with moder synthetics or stainless steel. Injection may well run on authentic Bio + mixture of diesel.
    But if your new with waranty check out with manufacturer of base vehicle.
    Service News: Bio-fuels are an integral part of the Peugeot Marque's policy for the protection of the environment and for
    sustainable development.
    Bio-diesels, fatty acid methyl or ethyl esters, usually vegetable oils, may be mixed with conventional diesel.
    Apart from the above-mentioned environmental aspect, their use improves the lubricating capacity of the
    fuel and thus protects the injection equipment against wear.
    Important Reminder
    The Peugeot Marque strongly advises against the use of crude vegetable oil (for example, cooking oil) in
    diesel engines. Although the calorific value of this oil is close to that of diesel, its physical-chemical
    properties (viscosity, molecular density and cetane index) are far from being the equivalent of those of
    diesel or of bio-diesel.
    Also, the use of crude oils in modern diesel engines (direct injection) causes two major problems:
    • Irreversible damage to the engine

    The use of diester and related terms of warranty
    • The Peugeot Marque is in favour of bio-diesel on condition that the quality of the bio-diesel/fatty
    acid methyl ester used complies with European standard EN14214 and that the end-product fuel
    complies with standard EN590, that is, a maximum of 5% fatty acid methyl ester content.
    The Peugeot Marque therefore grants its contractual warranty coverage for vehicles using fuel
    which meets this standard.
    • 30% bio-diesel mixture with diesel fuel (B30: rape seed based vegetable oil methyl ester).
    Deliveries must be guaranteed by the fuel companies for captive fleets (businesses, local
    authorities, etc…) and fuel storage must not exceed three months.
    The subsidiary and/or importer will notify you in writing of the captive fleets complying with the
    above-mentioned application conditions. Only vehicles complying with these conditions
    applicable to captive fleets, will be covered by the PEUGEOT manufacturer's warranty.
    • On the other hand, the Peugeot Marque does not provide warranty coverage for the use of
    pure bio-diesel (B100): poor resistance of the fuel system elastomers (risk of leaks causing
    starting and running problems) and of the injection equipment.

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