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  1. gordoncbrown

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    The neighbour opposite me is a mechanic and does a few jobs on the side. He often has two or three cars parked outside his house on the road , although there is space on his drive for at least 3. It makes it akward for us to get our cars in and out of the driveway at times. Looking where the cars are parked just now I would struggle to get the MH out but possibly could if I shuffled back and forth and mounted the pavement. We have asked him to park with a bit more consideration on several occasions. :Angry: I know what he is doing is not illegal as the cars are taxed etc but it is a nuisance. One of our other neighbours struggles to get his work van on his drive because of the cars as well.
    Any suggestions?
     
  2. paulmold

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    You could report him to the local planning office. If he is running a business he needs to apply for 'change of use'.
     
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    I thought it was illegal to do major repair/servicing work on a vehicle on the public highway..

    Same question asked here... with some advice...
    http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/How-it-Works/Question196473.html
     
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    Not a nice thing to do but has he registered his house as a business for rates. water, electric and so on........

    If you have the nerve might be a good idea to have a word with him pointing out he is walking on a fine line........


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  5. gordoncbrown

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    Unfortunately he takes them on to his drive to do the work. Thanks for the reply though
    :Smile:
     
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    Hi Gordon!
    I think I would have a little word in his ear about this, should he be doing these repairs outside his home? But the bottom line is he shouldn't be making it awkward for your to get your mh out and into your driveway.
    Some neighbours can be really thoughtless, and so maybe just needs pointing out to him. When we lived in Largs, our neighbour used to park his big white van right outside our lounge window, we eventually had a word in his ear and he moved it, saying that he'd always parked it there before we bought the house:Angry: Sometimes men don't think about these things.
    Perhaps if he doesn't move the vehicles, then the next step I would do is to contact your local council and get their views on it. But I appreciate it's easier to sort it out amicably with him.
    Thank goodness we don't have any neighbours:Angry:
    Good luck with it:thumb:
     
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    i can think of a few suggestions ....none of which are legal unfortunately.:RollEyes:

    one suggestion which is legal though.....take photo's or, better still, video's of him moving cars on and off his drive and the cars when parked on the road (you would need to photo him parking the cars), then visit your local council/highways offices with the evidence of INCONSIDERATE PARKING AND OBSTRUCTING THE HIGHWAY.

    this option may backfire though, and the council could impose a no parking (double yellow line) zone.
     
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    Could you get the other neighbour who's also having trouble parking and the two of you approach him together, "the more the merrier" to complain I'd say and point out that he's causing you both aggro!!:Angry:
    Try appealing to his better nature, if he has one that is?
    Do you have a Rottie?:BigGrin:
     
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    Oooooh nasty..... sure to help with neighbourly relations.:RollEyes:

    Take the guy down the pub and explain the problem and ask if he can help resolve it, if he declines....... report him to the council, as above :Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:

    Regards, Bryan
     
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    Whenever it's difficult to get your vehicle out I'd go and ask him to move his car as you need to get out. If he refuses then explain that any damage to his vehicle is down to his refusal to move. Mind you I have a Landrover with a big rear towbar. :RollEyes:
     
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    The best way is to ask him round for a drink or something similar and do things in a friendly manner if you fall out he will probably go out of his way to be blocking your drive.Try to keep things friendly as reporting him will bring its own problems,it all really depends on how approachable he is,far better to talk in a friendly manner if he is not a :censored:2
     
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    One thing that no-one seems to have mentioned is the fact that he's doing the jobs 'on the side' and is therefore not declaring them and paying his NI, tax etc as he should be ... it would also mean, as far as I'm aware, that any injury/damage etc that may be caused to others/property due to his doing this work at home, would not be covered by any insurance.

    I would think the 'tax' issue might be a good one to point out to him though, as it will 'hit his pocket' if he's shopped to the tax men ...

    However, as you've already tried to resolve this amicably I suspect you'll have to either put up with it, or do something more 'official' - he's not allowed to cause a nuisance to his neighbours so a call to the council to get it checked out and remind him of his neighbourly obligations might be the answer.
     
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    No one has the right to park a motor vehicle on the highway, even outside your own house.
    Many believe they have this right, but not so.
    It commits the offence of obstruction, which carries a fine but is not endorseable.
    Generally it's unpoliceable due to the number of vehicles involved nationally.
    As long as vehicles are not parked in a dangerous position (different offence, larger fine and an endorsement)
    Obstruction as an offence is not just about the highway. It extends to restricting access to and egress from premises, business or private.
    If this guy is causing difficulties in either using the highway or gaining access from premises it's a matter for plod.
    Give him the gipsys, then talk to plod if he ignores you.
    Play the access for emergency services vehicles, stressing that a fire engine is a big bit of kit, and an ambulance is probably wider than the neighbour's van.
    Dont go to the council, you will be writing letters for ever.

    If no response, see K9's post.
     
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    I had a problem, some years ago in one of my other houses,we shared a drive and this fellow worked at Vauxhalls,but did repairs on his days off. The pain was he worked shifts and sometimes he was working at 2 in the morning. I was about to tackle him when I returned from my holidays. When I returned it was very quiet after a few days he spoke to me and said he had had a fire and had to call the fire brigade,they found cellulose paint and welding gas!! He was spoken to,it could have been worse-I'll leave that to your imagination.
     
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    Years ago I had a neighbour that complained about just about everything (his missus had a lot to do with it), my good neigbour on the other side was painting the outside of his house one Saturday afternoon with his portable radio in the garden, we heard neigbour A's wife shouting at her husband to do something about the terrible din outside. About an hour later a patrol car arrived at neighbour B's house, an officer walked into the back garden and indicated they had received a nuisance call about excessive noise but in his opinion there was nothing to report in about, my neighbour knew who was responsible and went round to neighbour A's and told him in no uncertain manner that all around were pee'd off with this guy's attitude and if he didn't watch it the tax man might just be made aware of 'Kerbside engineering' habits (yes, he did loads of foreigners) I,ve never seen such a change in a man, it was remarkable, he even started to stand up to his missus!! :Wink:
     
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    :Smile:My answer to the double parking on our cul-du-sac was to knock people up no matter what time I had to go out even if I could squeeze through. When Jan was working for a nursing agentcy it could be anytime, and picking her up in the morning was always very early.
    It did not stop the double parking but now they nearly always leave enough room for me to get out. Persistance pays.
    I have found that the police round here have the attitude "They have to park somewhere" and in this case are as useful as a chocolate fireguard.
     
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    Give him the yosser headbutt:Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    Update. We decided to approach him once more. We decided that Caroline would speak to him and see if that would do any good. He was nice as anything. Explaining that he would not park as to cause any inconvenience to others. He is aware that in the past he has parked cars inconsiderately and caused issues. The car causing the issue at the moment was nothing to do with him he said. As. It was nothing to do with him...........we checked the other neighbours but no one knew anything about it. Has it been dumped? We called the plod to let them check if it was stolen or dumped. They looked into it and got back to us. They informed us the owner had been on holiday and had left it with someone to get some work done on it. Mmmmmmm someone's been telling porkies. I can see only one option now. If he was going to be decent about it he just had to move it , not lie about it and then get caught out.:Angry:
    Thanks to everyone for their advice and help
     
  19. Jaws

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    Guys ..

    I really do appreciate how bloody annoying this is and do fully sympathise ( glad it is not me .. )

    But.....................................................................

    Only a couple of weeks ago someone was having the opposite issue with a neighbour, in that the neighbour complained about a motorhome parked on the members drive way blocking light etc..

    Some of the advice given was in direct contravention to that given in this thread

    Either it is legal to park a car, taxed and tested, on a road ( matters not who owns the car ) or you cannot..

    For the offence of obstruction to have taken place you must show your access has been blocked or obstructed.

    There is no offence of 'being a bit inconvenienced and it is a nuisance' !

    And I just know that this is not what the OP wanted to hear and it proly will not win me a popularity prize but it is to the point ..... Sorry
     
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    Totally realise that taxed insured etc parking is allowed, etc. it is a case of being considerate to others. He has a big enough drive for a couple of cars. There is quite a bit of room out there and it is causing inconvenience. Legally I could park one car on one side of his drive and the MH on the other. He would still be able to get in and out of his drive, just, but why should my parking cause someone else hassle. A little bit of thought for others goes a long way. Totally realise that if he has visitors etc they can park wherever but they are gone after a day or so. Having cars there for a week or do that don't move and are in your way is a different matter. I have a lot of sympathy for the folks who have the issue that you mentioned. Bear in mind he has just lied to us about one of the cars. What does that tell you about him?
     

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