Motorhomes should move on, says councillor

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  1. ShiftZZ

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    Published on Saturday 18 August 2012 08:00



    OWNERS of motorhomes parked along Bexhill’s De La Warr Parade for several weeks have outstayed their welcome.



    But the owners are not breaking any laws by being there, since there is no restriction on parking or overnight stays at the far end of the eastern promenade.

    Rother district councillor Deirdre Williams said she was nevertheless taking residents’ concerns seriously and hoped to resolve the situation and prevent it happening again.

    She said: “I’m not joking when I say I have had more than 50 e-mails from people living in the area, all expressing anger about the situation.

    “They resent the fact that parking spaces are being denied to other users, such as those who have beach huts there; that water is being obtained free from taps in the nearby public toilets; wastebins are overflowing; washing is being draped on fences and so on.”

    Cllr Mrs Williams said: “These facilities are paid for by council tax payers. Fine, if visitors are only there for a day or two, but we’re now talking weeks and there are many who clearly think it’s not on for the motorhomers to expect them to subsidise their lifestyle.”

    One resident, Colette Aspinall, said: “It makes it difficult for other visitors or locals to park and use the beach. I don’t think I’m alone in my displeasure.”

    Another, Geoffrey Hume, said the contingent created “an unsightly mess” likely to deter others from using the promenade.

    Police and council officials have visited the site, where up to a dozen dormobiles have parked, but are powerless to act under present regulations.

    Cllr Williams said: “It’s time these visitors went. I’d like to see it made illegal to stop there overnight, but that can’t happen immediately. In the short term, water supply has been restricted to prevent over-use and talks are continuing to see what else might be done.”

    Rother’s director of services Tony Leonard said: “We are aware of the motorhome issue and have noted the concerns of residents who have contacted us.

    “Being a highways matter, this is not Rother’s direct responsibility but is a county council issue. Nevertheless, our senior officers and local councillors have met with East Sussex County Council’s head of highways and Sussex Police to discuss the matter and find a solution.

    “At the moment, no restrictions are in place that prohibit motorhomes on East Parade.

    “As long as the vehicles are taxed and insured, they are legally permitted to remain at this location overnight.

    “It has been concluded that we could look at implementation of a Traffic Regulation Order, but this will take time as it needs to go to public consultation.

    “It requires careful consideration, as any restrictions will apply to all vehicles and not just motorhomes, so we need to be mindful about what restrictions should be put in place. In the meantime, our officers will continue to monitor the site for any illegal or anti-social behaviour.”


    http://www.bexhillobserver.net/news/bexhill-news/motorhomes-should-move-on-says-councillor-1-4173503
     
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  2. artona

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    If its the same vehicles for weeks on end I 100% agree with the residents, who here would like someone camping outside their homes or on the side of the road in their area.

    If its someone stopping for the night I think thats different but if its a constant stream of different vehicles, when one goes another seems to be waiting to take its place I am not really sure what the answer is
     
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    The answer is obvious, give the motorhomers somewhere to park, it aint rocket science, but then the travellers get in an the whole thing goes to pot:Angry::Angry::Angry:
     
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    Its a pity but it seems we are our own worst enemy:Sad:
     
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    So no one is actually breaking any laws here are they?
    No.
    So what has actually happened is someone beat someone else to a parking space.
    None of which might be caused by motorhomers.
    and the county council and taxpayers in general.
    I'd like to see proof of that. Some little old lady looking out of her window and seeing a motorhome isn't going to be noting reg numbers and makes and checking who comes and goes.
    Subsidise? In what way? Parking where anyone can park legally. Using facilities anyone can use. Perhaps motorhomers should stop subsidising local council taxpayers by stopping spending money in the area.
    See previous comment: Someone beat me to a parking place.
    Yes, that picture in the article shows the vehicles belonging to a bunch of new age travellers doesn't it? I suspect it isn't hard for any local journalist to find someone who considers one bit of litter "an unsightly mess" and get a quote out of them. Now I don't know if that was what was happening here, but it's possible.
    Yet again - NO ONE IS BREAKING THE LAW.
    Parking for LOCAL PEOPLE only?
     
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    I've sent an e-mail to Councillor Williams
    I've tagged it with a read receipt request so it will be interesting to see if she replies or even reads it.

    I sent a similar message to the councillor involved in the similar story about Marazion a few weeks ago. Lack of read receipt points to the fact that the message may not have even been opened. That councillor has certainly never replied.
     
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    Bexhill Observer August 2013
    Beach hut values "cut by 50%" due to parking restrictions.
    Owners complain about having to leave huts early to avoid getting clamped.
     
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    Interestingly, if you look closely at the photograph in the newspaper article it appears that the two modern vans nearest the camera are using electric hook-ups! Or have generators? Weird. Perhaps they are beach hut owners and are taking an electric supply from there? :Wink:
     
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    well spotted..

    it's hardly 'overnight parking' with a genny and level ramps in use .. :RollEyes:
     
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    The article has had a reply:
    :Doh: ( - nearest I can find to a facepalm)
    So, one - he managed to park. Two - children occasionally get out of control or don't watch what they are doing. (Surprised that didn't make the front page of the MSM) Three - they were "Eastern European". Maybe it's an offence to be Eastern European in Bexhill? Maybe they were working there? Maybe next week there'll be an article on Bexhill residents exploiting lowly paid Eastern European workers? What sums up this person's ignorance is "These people flout our laws" So, is that Eastern Europeans or motorhome owners? And, despite the article stating several times that no laws were being broken, the first commentator asserts that the law was been broken, albeit without mentioning which law(s).
     
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    There is one comment which has been added after the report at 8.53 am today.....

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    8:53 AM on 19/08/2012

    After taking my son to his karate class on Wednesday [HI]we usually park by the toilets[/HI] and have a cuppa tea from our flask.. we saw these mobile homes parked there each time and on one occasion the charity run was going on.. the kids were getting in the way of the runners with their scooters and bikes but on one bothered to stop them.. [HI]after hearing them talking in a Eastern European language is it any surprise[/HI].. [HI]These people flout our laws[/HI].. This was 3 weeks ago and they are still there?




    So it seems it is ok for Alan 1952 to park there but not for others....:Doh:

    Eastern European languages being spoken? This is beginning to sound like a :dm: story..

    "These people flout or laws"? Who exactly does Alan 1952 suggest "these people" actually are? :RollEyes: and which laws are they flouting, that allows him to park there but not others?..



    I think anyone who stays for weeks on end is indeed taking the mickey, but more often than not I think there is more than a hint of jealousy in these stories, as all the so called complainants, would actually like to have a Motorhome themselves....
     
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    A similar thing happens in France ....we talk to many uk motorhomers ....and there are a certain few..that say we have been on this Aire for two weeks and are stopping another week even though there was a notice saying 72 hours only.... many coupled into the free electric...one person had a book hand written with all the free Aires with the free electric...quite happily telling me we stop there for two weeks and there for three weeks and there and there.. we come over every year for 6 to 8 months in France Just stopping on free aires going down and coming back on the same Aries....that is not what the Aires is all about...many villages are now putting signs up saying 24 hours only some say 48 hours...some say 72 hours...or it is on your metered ticket stating two nights only

    So stopping for days and weeks on end at the side of the road at busy seaside town..in the hight of the season...Mmmm..its not on is it ...one night fine...I can understand the residents and council being angry.....why don't they stop one night and move on..:Doh:...if they did things in moderation.. no problem ....some people spoil it for others:Doh:
     
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    I have some simple solutions to the problems faced by residents who don't like looking out and seeing motorhomes legally parked in the road opposite.

    1. Stop looking out of those windows.

    2. Close the curtains.

    3. Move into the back room and look out of the window into your garden.

    4. Move house.

    5. Park your and your neighbours cars in the spots as soon as they become empty and don't move them.

    Just imagine how awful it must be for the motorhomers to look out of one side of their vans and see ugly, immovable structures made out of bricks stuck there.

    JJ :Cool:


    PS. and just in case some readers can't "see" the "tone" of this post (it has happened to me before) I better add...


    :Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    We don't see "travellers" problems across Europe.

    Why here ?

    Basically it's NIMBY. Political. Driven by Coln Blimp and local campsite owners.
     
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    in many european countries there are large traveller sites .i have on ocassion stopped on them myself . luckily being in a truck gets me half in no probs . even better when there are two of us . i find the ones already there very friendly .they are hidden away abit and not next to main through fares . as we tend to travel on the smallest roads we can find we very often see the sires . they are better than many of the aires and are usually more spaced out and you can have a beer with the locals sat around their campfire .ideal love it.
     
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    Why can't the Bexhill Council designate either the car park, shown in the picture, or 100/200 metres of space on the east end of the Parade just for Motorhomes?

    A time limit of 24/48 hours and possibly a charge of a few pounds (if water, litter bins and toilets are close by) and MH only spaces from April to November would encourage genuine Motorhomers and discourage those who now abuse the system.

    The east end isn't overlooked by close buildings and access to the beach huts is certainly not obstructed in that area.

    They have a designated area for taxis towards the west end of the Parade that earns the Council no money at all.

    The new MH area would provide a steady income for the Council with very little initial outlay.

    Even a fiver a day for parking on the seafront wouldn't break the bank for most MH owners and
    earn the Council up to £1000 a week in high season.

    Or is that too simple a solution to the problem?
     

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    I put my two pennith worth in as well, for what its worth:Blush:


    Dear Cllr Williams

    As a motorhome owner I felt I had to put pen to paper after reading your story in the Bexhill Observer about parking along De La Warr Parade. One of the great attractions of motorhoming is the freedom it brings and being able to park up almost anywhere as long as laws permit is one of those attractions and without a doubt my wife and I would not have seen most of the the great places we have, if it were not for our motorhome.
    Although I do not condone parking up for weeks on end, My wife and I do park our Motorhome for one or at most two days on such roads where parking laws permit, so that we can visit the towns and villages like Bexhill, and while there, we are like any other tourist, we spend our money in the local shops and restaurants etc, and in doing so would like to think we are contributing to the local economy.
    I think it would be a great shame if this opportunity to visit your town was spoilt by the inconsiderate few and that we are all going to be tarred with the same brush. Most of the motorhomers I know, including ourselves are quite willing to pay a reasonable fee for parking overnight close to towns.
    I find it amazing that France, Germany and many other european counties have seen the advantages of providing free or very low cost parking for motorhomes in most of its villages, towns and citys but we in England seem short sighted and blinkered to it, I wonder why that is??? Who knows maybe Bexhill can be one of the first?

    Regards

    Tim wizzer59


     
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    I've had a reply from Councillor Williams which indicates (to my satisfaction at least) that it is a small number of motorhome owners bringing the rest of us into disrepute.

    It is clear from her reply that it is the abuse of publicly funded facilities which is the problem, not overnighting by motorhomes per se.

     
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