MOT question

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  1. 2dogs

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    I'm sure a chip in wiper swept area of windscreen is a failure?

    what is the reason behind this? is it obstruction of vision or damage to wipers?

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    Think it depends on the size of the chip
     
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    about 10mm
     
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    damage to screen.

    In wet weather the chip can distort vision.

    And it doesnt do your blades any good either.

    There is a maximum size before it fails.
     
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    the rule is there due to the obstruction to vision and structural integrity. get it repaired as most insurances companies will pay without loss of NCD

    under 10mm you may get away with it, but is it worth the risk of the screen failing whilst driving?
     
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    its maximum 10mm in the swept area 40mm elsewhere, so if it doesnt spread beyond the gauge used then it may be an advisory. as already said though it needs repairing and may cost nothing
     
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    reason I ask is the chip is near the top of the screen , about 3", drivers side and in sweep of wiper however, as the van has the blind rail running across the top of the screen, I can't see the chip from the drivers seat so it is not obstructing my view.
    Would it still be considered a failure?

    cheers
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    over 10mm in the shaded area and over 40mm in the other swept area is a fail.

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    like I said John, it is in the swept area but out of my view,
    had Autoglass round a few months back but he refused to repair as it was being swept by wiper ??

    cheers
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    if autoglass wont fix it try elsewhere
     
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    i doubt the tester will notice it being where it is.
    The repairer had no ligit reason not to repair because it was swept....sounds like he couldnt be arsed....thousands of chips are in the swept area.
    Outside the swept area doesnt leave much glass to work on.

    Usually the only time they cant/wont repair is if the chip is excessive or its very old.
    An old chip will be full of contaminants and the resin may not 'take'
    If the chip is very large the resin may distort and sag.
     
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    Thanks both,

    will get it repaired soon as MOT is up in April,

    Cheers
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    If the damage to the screen is not in the drivers view of the road it does not come into the MOT. Testers have to sit in drivers seat and asses drivers view of road through windscreen.
     
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    Fail criteria for windscreen damage is quite clear as per the diagram
    If the damage is of the sizes quoted, then a fail will be the result, there is no question of "IF" it obstructs the drivers view to be answered :Smile:
    Geo
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    You will find that repairs that close to the edge of the screen are often refused, another 1" or so in and he'd have had a go, it matter little to the operative if you ave a new screen or not
     
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    thanks Geo...didnt realise that. :thumb:
     
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    Thanks Geo
     
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    Hi Geo
    I am also a tester an AE. Just been on refresher course and much time was spent on windscreen inspection. Method of inspection in manual is to sit in drivers seat and asses drivers view of road. Therefore in Vosa opinion if damage is not in drivers view of road it is not testable. Lots of other contentious issues as well !!
     
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    Thanks Telsdog,

    I will be getting it repaired but still interested in possible reasons for failure etc etc if you know what I mean.

    will take it down my local garage and see what they think.

    Cheers
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    I shouldn't have to remind you but I will because its an easy trap to fall into:RollEyes:
    Vosa doesnt have an opinion neither do any of it trainers enforcers or other levels of personel

    They have the same as us a "MANUAL" and untill its changed in the manual I will interpret what the manual says including special notices and ignore everything else

    What do vosa use the manual for
    To nail you to the cross when things go tits up
    All the trainers say then is he must have miss heard or miss interpreted what I said

    The Manual is your saviour Read it:thumb:
    If you disagree you have not been testing long enough
    Geo
     
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