MOT Abroad ... Just a thought (1 Viewer)

[Alistair33]

What an idea .... While we are still in Europe , a Europe wide MOT test or at least a UK licenced MOT garage abroad .....

Discussion welcome

 

[Minxy]

Not sure what there is to discuss, you can't do it anywhere but in the UK.

 

[GWAYGWAY]

There is absolutely NO REASON AT ALL that the DVLA cannot arrange and authorise an MOT station or more than one, to be allowed to operate in Spain and Portugal.. They have to comply with the rules and equipment laid down and be able, and be open to visit to ensure the compliance. Same as every other one in this country. Just a matter of shipping an inspector out for a RyanAir flight for a couple of days. Mind you when the UK officialdom does trip it is ALWAYS the dearest way possible. 1st class both ways.
There are quite a few garages in other European countries that are manned by UK mechanics. and some of those are bound to be Tester ticketed. Might be worth an enquiry to the DVLA.

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[Daz n Tina]

Can you get mots in Gibraltar?

 

[BreweryDave]

Can you get mots in Gibraltar?

Sadly no. Otherwise what a great business - so many ex pats with dodgy cars!!!

 

[Daz n Tina]

Sadly no. Otherwise what a great business - so many ex pats with dodgy cars!!!

You must know someone that could start the business

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[Fletton]

I fear..... red tape ... would "discourage" any such "logic and sensible" activity...

 

[gus-lopez]

What an idea .... While we are still in Europe , a Europe wide MOT test or at least a UK licenced MOT garage abroad .....

Discussion welcome

The EU Etc; have been talking about standardised mot tests as long as I have lived here.

You must know someone that could start the business

He means " No" as in you can get one only for a Gib registered vehicle.

 

[vwalan]

whats an mot ?
get an exempt vehicle .
as for gibralter its difficult buying vehicles there and trying to register them there if you dont live in gib. they wont transfer ownership to you at the vehicle reg office in gib.
never mind been there done it.
mot?????????????

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[Daz n Tina]

The EU Etc; have been talking about standardised mot tests as long as I have lived here.




He means " No" as in you can get one only for a Gib registered vehicle.

It was "TONGUE IN CHEEK"

 

[maxi77]

In Portugal the mot stations will do a UK mot exactly according to UK specs but they are not recognised by the UK. Expats who missed mots used to get thes certificates and usually the the police would let them of if they had just arrived back if they got an mot immediately. Now it is all automated you are probably picked up by an ANPR camera as you leave the ferry terminal.

 

[vwalan]

there as been a few so called uk mot stations in spain over the years .
most have been closed.
never mind soon many of the expats in the eu that havnt followed the rules will be coming back ,or being kicked out of spain .
hopefully illegals in uk will be kicked out as well.
there must be thousands that havnt registered or become residents of spain. met loads over the years many this year have said they havnt done this or that but it does seem many are going to come a cropper.

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[vwalan]

In Portugal the mot stations will do a UK mot exactly according to UK specs but they are not recognised by the UK. Expats who missed mots used to get thes certificates and usually the the police would let them of if they had just arrived back if they got an mot immediately. Now it is all automated you are probably picked up by an ANPR camera as you leave the ferry terminal.

there was a time were itv stations in spain would give an mot for 6 months ,after that you needed to register the vehicle in spain.
yes on return to uk you had to get a uk mot as close to the port as possible. in uk.
before sorn was set up you didnt sort of needed to worry anyway . tax in the window was enough. now tax insurance ,mot all available to the world.

 

[GWAYGWAY]

Husks at Lydden on the A2 coming out of Dover, will do UK mot s for you 5 miles from the gate and no ANPR between the docks and garage.

 

[The Nomad]

there was a time were itv stations in spain would give an mot for 6 months ,after that you needed to register the vehicle in spain.
yes on return to uk you had to get a uk mot as close to the port as possible. in uk.
before sorn was set up you didnt sort of needed to worry anyway . tax in the window was enough. now tax insurance ,mot all available to the world.

Sorry; I disagree.
ITV stations in Spain have never been able to supply a valid MOT test certificate for a British registered vehicle.

They can only administer the Spanish ITV (Inspección Técnica de Vehículos) test and certificate, which is utterly irrelevant and meaningless for anything except a Spanish matriculated vehicle.
(The only exception is a pre-importation ITV/engineers certificate examination, which is part of the process of replating a vehicle from some other EU country onto Spanish plates, and is only valid as part of that paperwork process)

In fact the Spanish ITV test is very different to the British MOT anyway - it tests fewer items, some different items, and to different technical standards.

British registered vehicles must by law have (if of an age that requires it) a current MOT test certificate to be used on any public roads, whether in the Britain or anywhere else.....and they can only be obtained from a registered MOT testing centre which only exist in Britain.

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[Alistair33]

W,re in the process of buying a motorhome and then hope to go off touring for a while. It was our decision to buy new so that we would not be forced to return to the Uk after 12 months just to get a piece of paper. I can see no reason why garages abroad could not be licensed to carry out MOT's to UK standards and issue certificates.

For course if they need to be inspected it would be expensive, however perhaps as part of the licensing, they could be made to carry the inspection costs?

 

[busby]

W,re in the process of buying a motorhome and then hope to go off touring for a while. It was our decision to buy new so that we would not be forced to return to the Uk after 12 months just to get a piece of paper. I can see no reason why garages abroad could not be licensed to carry out MOT's to UK standards and issue certificates.

For course if they need to be inspected it would be expensive, however perhaps as part of the licensing, they could be made to carry the inspection costs?

I think that if your vehicle is out of UK over a certain period it has to be registered as exported,,Don't know how they would find out though, BUSBY,,

 

[peterc10]

I think that after 6 months in another country you have to register your vehicle there, don't you? So real need for MOTs abroad IF you follow the rules?

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[Alistair33]

I think that after 6 months in another country you have to register your vehicle there, don't you? So real need for MOTs abroad IF you follow the rules?

In our instance we will be moving around and don't expect to spend more than say 4 months in one country

 

[TheBig1]

there was a fairly famous garage on the costas that used to cheat the mot system. they inspected the vehicle in the spanish garage then sent the details to a partner mot station in the uk who posted out the certificate. vosa caught on and investigated and the uk mot station lost their licence

it was an excellent idea though and if it was made legal would work very well for all involved

 

[pyro]

In our instance we will be moving around and don't expect to spend more than say 4 months in one country

I would be very wary, as some interpret the rules as meaning if you are away from the country of registration for longer than 6 months, as opposed to being in any another single country for more than 6 months.

Technically you are required to be fully legal in the country of original registration whilst you are elsewhere, in other words, taxed, MOT'd and insured (to cover EU travel).

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[klaatu]

If you take a UK registered vehicle out of the UK for more than 12 months, DVLA regard it as permanently exported, and legally you are supposed to tell them that you have done that.

 

[jumartoo]

In our instance we will be moving around and don't expect to spend more than say 4 months in one country

But then your insurance kicks in. How many days out of the UK in any one trip.

 

[busby]

But then your insurance kicks in. How many days out of the UK in any one trip.

Thing SAGA do 365 days out of UK..BUSBY.

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[Alistair33]

Safeguard do 365

 

[maxi77]

W,re in the process of buying a motorhome and then hope to go off touring for a while. It was our decision to buy new so that we would not be forced to return to the Uk after 12 months just to get a piece of paper. I can see no reason why garages abroad could not be licensed to carry out MOT's to UK standards and issue certificates.

For course if they need to be inspected it would be expensive, however perhaps as part of the licensing, they could be made to carry the inspection costs?

Whilst I would agree it is not beyond the wit ofman but with our current brexit obsessed government the chances are slim, andperhaps slimmer in the future

 

[busby]

Whilst I would agree it is not beyond the wit ofman but with our current brexit obsessed government the chances are slim, andperhaps slimmer in the future

The Government is not obsessed with Brexit they are carrying out the wishes of the electorate who by majority in a referendum voted to leave The EU..(Think the majority of MPs wanted to stay in,,Jobs for the boys) BUSBY

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[Littlewheels]

In Portugal the mot stations will do a UK mot exactly according to UK specs but they are not recognised by the UK. Expats who missed mots used to get thes certificates and usually the the police would let them of if they had just arrived back if they got an mot immediately. Now it is all automated you are probably picked up by an ANPR camera as you leave the ferry terminal.

Definitely no ANPR cameras at Plymouth,Portsmouth and the Tunnel as I know of a number of people who have come back out of MOT including myself.

I know people will argue against this but they have booked a MOT Station 300 miles from U.K. Entry without problem.

 

[Littlewheels]

I think that after 6 months in another country you have to register your vehicle there, don't you? So real need for MOTs abroad IF you follow the rules?

I believe this is applicable if you take up Residence, in the case of a Motorhome it's also not nessasarily parked on the highway and is very unlikely to draw attention anyway,however, if it was a Car and you work,commute,etc etc you are not a Tourist.

 

[gus-lopez]

W,re in the process of buying a motorhome and then hope to go off touring for a while. It was our decision to buy new so that we would not be forced to return to the Uk after 12 months just to get a piece of paper. I can see no reason why garages abroad could not be licensed to carry out MOT's to UK standards and issue certificates.

For course if they need to be inspected it would be expensive, however perhaps as part of the licensing, they could be made to carry the inspection costs?

As it is new it won't need one after a year anyway.
It is the list of other laws you would be breaking that are more likely to be of concern.
1) 12 months + out UK= Permanent export.
2) No vehicle in one EU state for in excess of 6 months being used on road.
3) You make the vehicle illegal once you have been in one state for 90 consecutive days as you become resident , whether you register or not, as a 'resident cannot drive a foreign plated vehicle. Leaving after 89 days exempts you & clock starts again. But unfortunately the vehicle will still fall foul of '2'.

In our instance we will be moving around and don't expect to spend more than say 4 months in one country

90 days & you are a resident whether a tourist or not. Only way to ensure that you are not classed as one , here in Spain anyway, is to attend a National police station & get a certificate of non-residency.

I believe this is applicable if you take up Residence, in the case of a Motorhome it's also not nessasarily parked on the highway and is very unlikely to draw attention anyway,however, if it was a Car and you work,commute,etc etc you are not a Tourist.

Doesn't matter what you are doing 90 consecutive days makes you a 'resident'.
Not that anyone is likely to actually crackdown on you but there is always the possibility .

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