Medical at 70?

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  1. Teasy2007

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    Hi, Mike has to have the medical so he can continue to drive our 3.750 motorhome.

    My question is, as we are not due back from Spain until 6 June and his 70th is on the 11June, can he still continue to drive the motorhome/car, after the 11th if he has already sent off all the forms etc on the 10th, which is when he is having the medical??

    He has not 'lost' his licence and the DVLA knows he has a licence so we are just not sure if he can still drive.

    Ginny and Mike
     
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    might be worth a call to drivers medicals on 03007906870.
    i would say not really as the licence is cancelled at age 70 .but there may be a period of grace.
    or try 0300 790 6801 for licence questions.
     
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    I would also think.. NO..
    The license (new) has not been issued and the old entitlement has ceased so legally not entitled to drive in that catagory..
     
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    Hi Ginny,
    I have done this twice.
    Mikes license runs out on the day he is 70 after that he won't have a license until they reissue a new one. Sending off the forms does not say he will be accepted and have the C1 category reinstated, so that's a no-no to drive the MH until he receives the new one.

    If he drives the van he will be driving without a license that covers that vehicle, not good if stopped. In the same way that a driver cannot drive a 7.5t lorry without the correct HGV license.

    Having the medical does not automatically qualify him to get the license with the C1 included, do you know what the medical involves? It may involve doing a treadmill test for 9 mins., can he run for that long if that is part of the medical?
     
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    Another problem is no valid licence = no insurance cover.

    My own driver medical was 14 weeks before my renewal date, my new licence arrived with about 5 days to spare, and that included me e-mailing DVLA to progress matters.

    Finally, they contacted me to ask me to expedite my GP as he had not responded to a question they had asked, in writing, they said. When I followed this up, I was given the date they had responded and offered a copy of the letter. When I relayed this to DVLA, they said they would investigate, and I was told not to contact them again....the cheek of it.

    Good luck, but I think you will be unlicensed for a period of time, and also uninsured, not only for your m/h but other vehicles under 3500kg.
     
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  6. Teasy2007

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    The problem arose because we went to Spain at the end of February and wont be home until June, I am sure the letter and form from the DVLA is waiting for us at home, but we will just have to wait. We did consider coming home early, but the weather is too good!!!

    What sort of things did they want you to do at the Medical? Mike had his eyes tested in February, so no problem there. I think I will have to have a look at the form online and see what is involved.
     
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    Medical at 70

    Having to go on a treadmill at 70 is a new one on me. From 65 I have had to have an HGV medical every year for my class 1 and will be renewing it again later this year which is in addition to my C1 which runs for 3 years after 70. For some people it's a worrying time but as long as you feel reasonably healthy then go for it.
    Good Luck.
     
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    Hi again Keith , hope you two are well.##

    I must admit that we did not think he would have to have a treadmill test!!

    We will have to park the motorhome until the licence comes back, I would be able to drive it that is for sure!

    Ginny
     
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    I know of 2 people who have had to do it and failed. :Eeek:

    I don't know for a fact but understand that the reason they ask you to do a treadmill is if you have had a history of heart problems.

    The medical for the over 70 who wish to keep their C1 license is the same form as the HGV drivers have to complete.
     
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    Medical at 70

    Yes it's the same form.
     
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    Mike has never had heart problems, but he does have COPD, should he declare this and take his repeat prescription to the test centre to show what medication he is currently using?
     
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    You need to contact DVLA and get form C2 for renewal of C1 licence and D4 Medical Report form. This is on top of the normal renewal form that DVLA will have sent out 56 days before your category B licence is due for renewal at 70. If your vehicle is under 3500kg you can renew online without the medical. C1 cannot be renewed online.

    Your existing licence expires at midnight on the morning of your birthday.

    We came back early from Spain in March for a late May renewal, to sort all of this out. I had eye test at opticians and it took a month to get the medical with my own doctor (Private appointment needed). I sent my stuff off 20th April. Still no licence and I expect it (as the form says) to take 3 weeks minimum. That is with no refer backs.

    If you have the medical with another doctor, DVLA have to check your history with your own doctor. It may be cheaper to go elsewhere but not when it is time critical.

    Yes, you will need details of any prescriptions on the D4 form. The form list conditions that have to be notified. DVLA can provide a letter confirming that you are not disqualified from holding a licence even if you do not have the new one in your possession. This works for the UK but not out of it.

    Condensed from the DVLA renewal form. Renewal of Licence at 70.
    Once DVLA have received your valid application you can drive before you receive your licence as long as you:
    1. have held a full licence issued after 1 January 1976 2. you are not disqualified. 3. you have not been refused a licence for medical reasons. 4. you would not be refused a licence on medical grounds 5. you keep any special conditions that applied to your lapsing licence.

    John
     
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    What sort of things did they want you to do at the Medical? Mike had his eyes tested in February, so no problem there. I think I will have to have a look at the form online and see what is involved.


    My medical was a full medical examination, close attention to flexibility of all leg joints. I was also weighed and measured, and then a sight test.

    DVLA got a little excited over my open heart surgery I had 50 years ago, but it had to be declared for the first time, this time, and again in three years time.

    No tread mills.

     
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    Thank you John for your very full and informative post.

    We had decided to go to one of the clinics and pay £ 58 but as you say, if it is time critical we would be better off going to our Doctor who charges £90. There is no point in going to a clinic who then have to refer to our Doctor before we can be issued with the license.

    I think we will ask our daughter to make an appointment for the day after we return then we can get it sorted out properly.

    Thanks again for your help.

    Ginny and Mike
     
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    Thanks John, I must admit I concentrated on getting the medical D4 form printed, but did not realise I needed another form before I could send everything off.

    The DVLA site does not have the 2nd form, is this the C2 form? the site is very confusing some forms can be printed and others not. I don't know if we can get one from the Post office, but I bet we can't. We will just have to wait now until we get home on Thursday.

    Ginny
     
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    You cannot do the treadmill with COPD, if they insist then you have to do the gamma ray scan (radioactive) and long waiting list, I had all this palaver 3 years ago because I had stents in my groin for leg circulation, nothing to do with my heart but they still made me do it. Costs DVLA a small fortune to do one, costs me nowt and by looks of it, got to do it all again to renew

    Peter
     
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    Sorry Ginny

    I got the form numbers wrong.

    As well as the normal form to renew your licence at 70 which DVLA send to you about 56 days before the renewal. You will also need an ‘application for renewal of lorry and bus entitlement’ (D47P) and a ‘medical examination report’ form (D4)

    I was calling the D47P form C2

    John
     
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    Interesting Post-I will follow this one :BigGrin:
    I'm due my 3rd renewal medical this yr-so far I have found the whole procedure farcical.

    For the first medical I contacted my local surgery to book an appointment and was told it would be £130 and only one of our GP's did them.I asked to book an appointment and was told that they would phone me when one was available-after 3 weeks I gave up and went to a private GP surgery for £90 and had the appt on the same day that I rang.

    I arrived with the form I had downloaded,but they already had the forms there.
    Apart from having to provide a urine sample and have my BP taken,the medical consisted of the Dr asking me questions and ticking boxes with my responses.For the eye test she held up a piece of card on other side of room and asked if I could read it-Job done :Rofl1:
    Oh-I did have to say what medication I was taking,but,as it's only Blood pressure tabs (very low dose) that was no problem.
    I assume DVLA checked with my GP,but I have no knowledge of that.

    We are now planning around the fact that I will have to do the whole thing again when the renewal notice arrives in late July/early Aug
    Losing my 'Grandfathers rights' by getting it wrong myself is not an option as the cost and inconvenience of rectifying the situation doesn't bear thinking about :Doh:

    Mike
     
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    Well Mike had his medical yesterday afternoon, no problem and he even managed to talk the Doctor down to £45! The doctor could not complete the eyesight part of the form so we had to go back to the Opticians this morning and talk him into completing that section, and signing and stamping the form.

    The D2 form arrived this morning - I ordered it online last week - so we completed it and posted everything this afternoon.

    According to the Notes on the D2 form :

    Renewing a licence at age 70 or over.

    Once we have received your valid application you can drive before you receive your licence as long as you meet the conditions listed above.

    * you have held a GB or Northern Ireland licence issued after 1 January 1976 or one you can exchange for a full British one
    * You are not disqualified from driving
    * You have not been refused a licence for medical reasons or for failing to comply with medical enquiries
    * You would not be refused a licence for medical reasons (if you are not sure, check with your doctor) and
    * You keep to any special conditions which apply to the licence.

    So it seems we might be able to come to Stratford with the funsters after all!!!
     
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    Good news... Look forward to seeing you..:thumb:
     
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