Mecedes...............

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  1. old-mo

    old-mo Funster Extra Special Life Member

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    Any members got a "Mercedes" based motor home... ?

    Anything to look out for...

    Good Bad or indifferent...:Cool:

    Ta... :thumb:
     
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    Me! Me!...... I've got one!!

    I have an Autotrail Scout on the Mercedes 316 CDi cab/chassis.

    It has a nice chain in the engine bit instead of a rubber band, which I find comforting... and driving it is lovely thanks to the available power and the Sprintshift automated-manual gearbox.... so much more relaxing than stirring a gearstick constantly. The layout of the dash and ancillary controls is somewhat dated (mine's the last of the previous model, an '06' plate) but not too hard to live with.

    The ride was a bit rock-and-roll as it seems to have a slightly narrower track than other makes but I got some lovely AS Air Suspension fitted which has cured that. I do like the fact that it's rear-wheel drive but to be fair, haven't had that much opportunity to put it to the test in conditions where front-drive would have struggled. I had to chuckle at the municipal site at Issoire, France, a couple of weeks ago. We arrived in late evening after the previous day and night had seen heavy rain and minor flooding on the grassed pitches. The warden was adamant that I park with my front wheels just onto the roadway to aid traction!! I didn't have the language skills to have the conversation about front/rear drive but in the event when we left the following day we just drove straight off with no problems!

    The main thing of note so far seems to be the quality of the shiny white paint that Mercedes applied.... not as shiny and good quality as many might have thought. Looking at the chassis underneath when the air suspension was fitted was a sobering experience.... more paint/waxoil etc to be applied at the end of the season methinks!

    My beastie had only done 16,000 miles when I got her in February (still on her original tyres) and I've now put that up to 23,500....no problems so far.

    Simon
     
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    Watcher Mo, my bestest buddy who I normally travel in convoy with has a Merc. It has plus sides but he complains that his van rolls far more than mine on corners and it also moves about when stationary with people moving inside.

    The rear wheel dive has considerably less track than the fwd wagons.

    The latter problem was so bad that he has fitted ground jacks to raise the vehicle off the tyres, that has sorted that problem plus he can now throw away his Millenco ramps.
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    Rust!
     
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    You will be bored to death with a Merc Mo. They never go wrong, well at least mine doesn't. I dont know anything about this rust issue as mine is only 23 years old with no rust as yet. Perhaps in another 23 years I may have an issue so please ask then :RollEyes:.
     
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    Engines are great 2006 ish was a year they had issues with ECU's, but only effected a small number - not seen it yet on motorhomes for some reason.

    Rust is an issue, mercedes do not underseal or protect commercial vehicles - if you get one, get a clean one and fill it with waxoyl or dintrinol and it will last forever!

    Only mechanical issues with mercs are injector seals can go, and a pain to get out - and also glowplugs grow in, and can snap requiring the head to be removed. So put into garages for that, and then it is their problem! lol!
     
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    IN A WORD MO,You cant beat them, ours is a pre all singing and dancing model mercs and is now 30years old its 3litr and strong as a horse and they have been known to achieve around 1million Km, not bad for a hitlers revenge,so all good in my eyes:thumb:
     
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    Sorry to be the only negative one here, but I had a 316 based motorhome with sprintshift, bought new, and it proved to be the most unreliable vehicle I have ever owned.

    Most - but not all - the problems related to the sprintshift box which decided not to change gear several times. The most embarrassing was half way round a roundabout in Oban with a coachload of elderly people stuck behind me. It was allegedly fixed but after calling out the emergency merc response people (who to be fair were very good) several times I'd had enough and the van had to go.

    I replaced it with the 250 base which, after the merc, was a revelation - much smoother and quieter, handled better due to its wider track, and did not have the annoying dash rattle that the merc had from new!

    Maybe mine was the only unreliable one made, but I would not have another merc.
     
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    No your not the only one the last 2 Mercs I owned were the most unreliable vehicles its ever been my misfortune to own. I would buy a merc chasis but it would have to be pre 2004 anything after that is too unreliable for me, but unfortunately that seems to apply to most vehicles.
     
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  10. icantremember

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    I don't own a Merc but when we were looking to buy a new m/h I took one out for a test drive and within a couple of miles it went into some sort of emergency mode and would only do about 25 mph :Doh:

    We went on to buy a 3.0L Peugeot base m/h which has loads of power and a timing chain:thumb:
     
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    hey mo me old mate you have seen mine the merc 4birth no problem with it but maybe a bit small for you as you have an rv but try one out when we meet up again you can try mine ok good hunting mervyn:thumb:
     
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    I bought a 313 with Sprintshift, brand new on a 51 plate.
    As you say, extremely unreliable box, and also had engine faults. Sold it after 2 years, and major agro with my dealer. Spent many days, traveling down the M6/M1 in limp mode, at 45mph. Unhappy dayz.

    Bought an Lt35 after that. 3.0 litre 158, and still have it 10 years later. Great van, with the same rust issues the Sprinter has.
     
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    downgrading Mo ? :Laughing:
     
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    No they all do 25mph:RollEyes::Wink::Wink:
     
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  15. old-mo

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    Never say never, John... :Wink:

    7,985 when we got it,,, now 9,859 = 1,874 miles done
    since we have had this one, 5 trips away and only got back home once with out finding problems or having problems.... :Sad::Angry:
     
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    1997 until 2003 rust problems on all M.B. models due to a cost cutting managing director.BUSBY:BigGrin:
     
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    Not the only one. Remember the member who's Merc holed a piston and paid out £12K for a brand new one because Merc "don't recon engines". I seem to recall this was a known problem caused by something like faulty software. It was only just out of warranty.
     
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    Ill bet you your CQ book it aint:Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    Should get 5 out of 5 problems with a Merc then Mo:thumb:
     
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