Max.permissible mass (exc. m/c)?

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  1. Allanm

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    I've just had my van uprated from 3500kg to 3700kg by SvTech. DVLA have been notified and even sent me a nice £50 refund on my road tax ( now £165 as PHGV )
    My new V5 arrived yesterday showing the new revenue weight as 3700 but it also shows (sect F.1 ) Max.permissible mass (exc. m/c) 3500.
    What on earth does that mean? Do I need a motorcycle?
    Allan
     
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    I would think it is an indication that you wouldn't expect to see a value for a motorcycle. Sounds like the DVLA have messed up and forgotten to update the actual MAM, which is the critical figure that will result in large fines from the police if exceeded.
     
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    Thank, you are quite right, and I was unable to convince Mrs A that I had to buy a new M/C!
    I rang DVLA and while they didn't quite admit that they had entered the wrong details, they did say the MAM should match the revenue weight and that I needed to send the V5 back with a copy of the new plate certificate and a covering letter explaining that the MAM was incorrect.
    They would then issue an amended V5
    Fingers crossed.......
    Allan
     
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    but you could buy a new m,bike any way . tell your wife we all thought it was a good idea .
     
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  5. Allanm

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    Just waiting for the right moment to broach the subject....

    Allan
     
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    I think it means you now as it is a goods vehicle have to carry a motorcycle with you when you go away:Wink:
     
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    Nice one! I'll try that later
    Allan
     
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    Well, I did what they said. Letter duly sent with copies of all certificates and returned V5c.

    5 weeks later, new V5c turns up.
    Hmm, lets check it's all ok.

    Revenue weight...3700KG Gross.

    Max permissable mass ( exc m/c) 3500. :Eeek:

    Same as before. Good old DVLA. They take great pleasure in telling you that you must tell them every change to your vehicle details on pain of fine, prosecution or worse, then take no notice when you do tell them.

    So, I telephoned a very pleasant lady at DVLA and explained the problem. She said I should have had a letter telling me they had sent the wrong V5 out and to return it when I get the letter, meanwhile, she said, they are investigating the new weight change. Whatever that means.

    A week later, the letter arrived and the old form was sent back, this morning, a new V5c arrived through the post, and thankfully, it shows all the correct details.

    A simple paperwork exercise has taken over 2 months. With all the local offices due to close down shortly and the added workload at Swansea, I don't envy anyone dealing with DVLA by post in the future.

    Still, mines all sorted…….

    Allan
     
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    2 years since this thread was started, I have just had my van re-plated. Guess what - yes, exactly the same problem - Revenue Weight correct but MAM left at the old 3500. :doh:

    All paperwork on its' way back to Swansea as it seems that they still have not got themselves sorted.
     
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    you couldn't make it up.......good old DVLA!:D
     
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    Just got my V5 back on Friday, mines the same, reluctant to return it as we are going abroad again on 8th September .
    Help what should I do?
     
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    Sent it back to DVLA with a bag of peanuts.:D
     
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    In that case should def get it back in time for christmas:giggle:
     
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    As soon as that.:D
     
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    just to keep this thread going......

    just uprated to 3700, V5 comes back with revenue weight 3700, MPM 3500, same problem as OP nearly 3 years ago
    Things take a while to get sorted at DVLA don't they:sleep:
     
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    Why am I not surprised! I have dealt with quite a few government departments and other professionals in the last few years. The vast majority of them are just incompetant, if I ran a business like them, I would have gone bust years ago.
    :restmycase:
     
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    I read some time ago that when they closed the regional offices,I used to live in Bournemouth and the one in Poole was great,face to face!
    They were so inundated in Swansea that they had to take on many " temporary" staff,guess they still have and don't understand the job!
    Just maybe.
     
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    The strategy to adopt is that you indicate your intent to buy a NEW bike that costs £X. You show her various bikes over a period of time and express (more than once) doubt about whether you should spend that much. After a suitable period of time you show her a USED bike that costs £X/2. She recognises the substantial drop in the potential outlay and sees the opportunity as a result!
    Win Win says the fella with 5 bikes in the garage!!

    Ian

    Edit: capitalisation added.
     
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    I like your reasoning.....
     
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