Marker lights MOT failure?

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  1. american37

    american37 Deleted User

    I was wondering if anybody could help me? My classic Dodge Marque (1979) has just failed its MOT because the marker lights at the top of the cab (orange) are the wrong colour.......is this right? If it is not, could anybody please direct me to a website where I can get the information to show the MOT centre as apparently I can appeal.

    Also it does not have a rear fog light fitted and failed on that too....but I read somewhere that fog lights only have to be on vehicles manufactured after 1st April 1980 and as mine is a 1979, does this mean I am exempt.

    Funny....it passed its last MOT, but now live 250 miles from my last testing station and had to use a different ione this year.
     
  2. Beachbum

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    I don't know the laws on marker lights, but I do know for certain that Fog lights must be on the off side in England. I have just purchased a German MH which has a fog light on the off side for German roads, which would be the near side for British roads. It failed it's MOT on this point. Had to fit a new fog light, giving me 2 fog lights, one on each side. My MOT station said, if I had a fog light in the middle (rear of the MH) that would have been accepted. Funny you should mention it, my last MH passed 4 MOT's until the 5th MOT where the guy failed the MH for the fog light. Had to fit one to get it passed. I did mention I had passed 4 previous MOT's but he wasn't interested.
     
  3. American Dream

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    Hi,

    My Dodge (same year) passed the MOT ok and has always had amber marker lights over the cab.

    It has, however, has a rear fog light retrofitted.

    Regards Steve.
     
  4. N Luyetund

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    Apparently they're tightening up on MOTs, had to replace indicator bulbs on the 'spare' car which had done less than 100 miles since the last MOT... wrong colour:Doh:

    The coloured bulbs (lamps for semantics:Wink:) are coated and if there's the slightest amount of white showing, it's a fail.
     
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    Hi american37
    I'm afraid this time the tester has got it completely wrong, :Doh:
    1. you are correct fog lights are not reqd on your vehicle (April 1980 on) section 1.1 of the testers manual

    2. The term used is obligatory front position light lights, and these are the lower ones and MUST be white in colour or yellow if, and only if, contained in a yellow headlight,
    The upper or any other front lights are optional and NOT part of the MoT test,

    All this is contained in the testers manual available to the tester by pressing F5 on his keyboard section 1.1 in the information section left hand side
    you may have to point out that just reading the reasons for rejection without consulting the notes will result in a wrong decision and cost the tester and MoT station penalty points if the test result is reported or appealed to VOSA, so ask him to look again:thumb:
    Geo
     
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    Well done Geo, there might be a lot of FUN on Fun but when it comes to the nitty gritty, the answers are there:thumb:

    Peter
     
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    American37 you now have the knowledge ..... & knowledge = Power.

    As Peter said the 'fun' site has more than just the fun. :clap::notworthy:
     
  8. american37

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    Thanks to all your replies. I will go back to the MOT station armed with my 'new knowledge'.
     
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    The picture file is too big to upload unfortunately, I will see if I can take some more pics with a different camera. Sadly we have decided to sell due to family getting bigger and need a 5 berth rather than 4. It is a shame, because I have spent a lot of time over the winter renovating it and it now has lots of mod cons....
     
  11. american37

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    Sadly my Dodge is now advertised on the classifieds....I need my weekends back!!
    Photos uploaded there too :Mellow:
     
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    Marker lights MOT failure

    When I took my current RV for it's 1st Mot about 3 years ago the Test Station (VOSA) pointed out to me that my marker lights above the windscreen were the wrong colour, but said that it wasn't part of the test so let it go through. I checked into this on the internet (can't remember now where, but it was a VOSA site on vehicle build standards) and it stated that these lights on the front can be any colour other than red so long as they dont flash. You can even have blue but I believe the police aren't too pleased about it!! The Rule generaly was --NO RED TO THE FRONT & NO WHITE TO THE REAR -- except for reversing lights.
     
  13. American Dream

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    Sad.I hope it goes to a good home.

    Mine's a 6 berth and suits us perfectly.:thumb:
     
  14. martyn

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    Does anybody know if this applies to REAR red marker lights. Took the lens off the only light not working, and wound up with a handful of rusty bits :Eek!:Got the dreaded M.O.T. this week.:cry:
     
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    Hi Martyn
    I assume your talking about the red markers at the top of your bus, it is not neccessary to have them . But some testers will say if they are fitted they must be working. Good luck with the test mate :thumb:
     
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    My Winnebago passed a year or so ago and its got amber lights along the top front roof
     
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    Hi Martyn just tape over them for the MOT what kind are they as I have some spares because I replaced mine a short while ago for led's, 2 of mine fell a part!!!

    Regards Pat
     
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    Ask this new guy to the forum he has a motorhome MOT business
    Redvers-MOTs
     
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    marker lights dont even come in to the test i have the manual here we call it the bible tell the tester to go and resit his test hes wrong
     
  20. martyn

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    Thanks for the advice Lads,think i'll take a lump of wire with me and link it to the next one if he has a winge about it.
    Ginge, i'll wait and see if he knocks it back on anything else,before i read him the riot act.:Wink:
     

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