M6 Toll rip off.

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  1. Bushtrekker

    Bushtrekker Read Only Funster

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    I haven't used the toll road for ages, because I object to the stupid way they charge. When it first opened I used it a lot as it was £2.50, then one day they wanted to charge me £5. I pointed out that the charges hadn't increased and asked why they wanted more...you'll love this one. At the time I had a 110 Land Rover and the spare wheel was normally on the back, but on this occasion was on the bonnet and the system works by measuring the height over the front axle. I refused to pay, explained why and the supervisor saw my point. I told them to listen to the local radio station at 10.00 and rang a s**t stirring presenter who hates the toll road to tell him what had happened.:BigGrin:

    Tonight I saw one sign, after I'd joined the toll road and every other sign on the way up was blank. When I got to the other end I was told it was £11, apparently the night discounts start at 11pm. I was then told that if I was a member of the Caravan Club I could get a discount...WHY?????

    I suspect the reason is that they want to get caravans and motorhomes of the busy section of the M6 which the toll road was built to avoid, so if that is the case why don't they encourage all of us to use it by reducing the stupid charge?:Angry:
     
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    But surely the toll road is like the channel buttons on the TV - if you don't like the programme, change channels. Likewise, no one's making you use the toll road.
     
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    I realise that.

    It was my choice because they keep closing the M6 for road works and because I haven't been here for a week I wasn't sure if part of it was closed.
    What I was querying was why members of one organisation get a reduction when other caravan and motorhome users don't on what is at the end of the day a public road.
     
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    I stopped using it in the van after the first time when they charged me £9.

    I use it occasionally in the car if I am in a hurry but if you time your journey right then the old M6 is just as quick in my experience.
     
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    tax tax tax tax tax
    so
    avoid avoid avoid avoid
     
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    The M6 Toll isn't a tax, it is a charge levied by Midland Expressway Limited, a private company.

    No, it isn't a public road in the sense that it is like any other motorway. From Wikipedia:
    As regards discounts and the rules under which they operate, Midland Expressway Ltd (like any other private company) can offer any discounts they want to. It's simply the free market in operation.
     
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    Do you know over the last 7 years I have used it more often than not, I would rather spend the money than go through Birmingham anyone in their right mind would. I wish they would do the same to Bradford, another place best avoided.
     
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    Private it might be, but that doesn't give them the right to rip people off, I was following my sat nav last week going to brownhills, I stupidly took a wrong exit off a roundabout and entered the M6 Toll road, (what an idiot) so I came off the next junction, approx 2 miles, and what was I charged, £10, now that is what I call a rip off.
     
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    They tell you in advance what they will charge you, if YOU made a mistake how can it be their fault?
     
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    Midland Expressway Ltd is a private company. They can charge anything they like and it is up to us whether we choose to pay the charge or not. If we think it is a rip off we go elsewhere.

    I appreciate that you ended up being charged as the result of a mistake but (without wishing to be rude) that was not the fault of Midland Expressway Ltd; we all have to suffer the consequences of our own mistakes.
     
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    It is a free choice to use or not use..... When in the van I set the gps to avoid toll roads in the knowledge that it is expensive. One of the problems with this is that some clever lawyer who agreed the government side of the contract did not put a capping clause in so they can charge whatever they like. Personally I think that the excessively high charges drive people away rather than encourage them to use it. I'll use the road sometimes if on business and can charge the toll to expenses but otherwise not.
     
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    I live at the start of it.

    The first junction is about a mile from home. During the day it is reasonably busy, but mainly used by vehicles with eletronic tags, using it to get to work at a discounted rate. Last night only three vehicles passed me along the entire length. Now that the M6 has four lanes at this point there is no real advantage other than at peak times. I used it last night as I had just driven 200 miles in one go and wanted to get home. If the motorway repair people would stop shutting down sections of the M6 at random I wouldn't have even thought of using it, but last time I got caught out by a junction closure I ended up going into Birmingham to get round it.

    The basic idea is sound, but to my mind they would be better increasing vehicle numbers by charging sensible rates than having it empty most of the time. Another aspect of the the M6 toll is that it doesn't always work, as roadworks at the other end slow you down and coming the other way to join the M6 there are frequent accidents caused by people joining from the toll road.
     
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    As a stranger to those parts I find that the signage when approaching from the south to be very confusing in favour of tricking motorists onto the toll road. One of the reasons I tend not to use it.
     
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    Presumably Midland Expressway Ltd use some sort of modelling to decide whether such an idea would be commercially advantageous and have decided not. Why not drop them an e-mail - https://www.m6toll.co.uk/contact-us/ - to suggest it and see what they say?
     
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    We do the same (in car as well) and have never had a problem avoiding it.
     
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    The plot thickens...

    I forgot to mention that my satnav loves the toll road. For me to get from Cannock to Sutton Coldfield the logical way is to take the A5 and Chester Road, but if I didn't know that the satnav on my phone which uses Google maps directs me down the toll road. It does this even on shorter journeys of 3 miles or so. I can't help suspecting that Midland Expressway may be paying Google to make sure this happens. From Poole to here I can either head up to the M4 and turn left, then cut the corner to the M5 at Swindon, or head straight on and pick up the M40. Strange that Google seems to prefer the toll road when all you have to do is trun left on to the M6 to avoid it...
     
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    Does it have a Toll Road setting? Google maps on my phone (Nokia E7) seems not to have that option but the "Drive" sat nav app does.
     
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    I haven't seen one.

    Last night was down to me. Having driven for almost five hours with breaks I really didn't want to have to divert because of any closures on the M6. As someone else has said on this thread, the junction with the M42 is confusing and the first sign with prices on is only visible at the last minute.
     
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    But then they would have to spend much more to maintain the road. It`s a balancing act between revenue and costs.
     
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    well 1 thing is for sure if we wanted to protest en mass then it would be pointless asking some people on here who seem to be ok with the companies or governments ripping us off
    the m6 is no different to the dartford crossing a toll road that would cease to become payable when the tunnel and the bridge had paid for itself which was years ago
    tax tax tax
     
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