Lpg Bottles

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  1. irnbru

    irnbru Funster Life Member

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    We are new to LPG and have 2 x 6kg gasit bottles with a manual changeover. We filled the bottles up completely and the first one ran out last weekend. Sitting in the MH now and tthe 2nd one has ran out but we really have hardly used it.
    Why do you think it has ran out so quickly?
     
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    Heating and large fridge freezers are the usual culprits. Have you both?
     
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    irnbru Funster Life Member

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    Not got a large fridge and it was hardly on , same as fire. It's just gone empty soooo quickly.
     
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    How are your nostrils? LPG has a smell, if can smell nothing ask someone else or make up a strong mix of water and washing up liquid and brush onto any possible place it could be leaking. Both rubber hoses and the washers in the pigtail connectors have a limited life

    Dick
     
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    Agree with Dick here, sounds as though you have a leak from a joint somewhere.
    Norman.
     
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    Its possible with you being new to filling bottles, you did,nt quite fill them both.

    Eric
     
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    It depends on how you've used it, assuming it was full originally! Heating can quickly gobble up gas so if you've had the fire on a fair bit that could account for it, alternatively if it's been really hot the fridge working harder could use up a bit more gas too.
     
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    It had a leak test done last month when they were fitted.
    I thought when you filled up the LPG it automatically went into both bottles. If this is not the case then that must be my problem.
     
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    I rather suspect they weren't filled 100% .. I had some difficulty with my first filling of mine..

    when you refill , check how many liters .. 2 x 6kg bottles should take aprox. 24 liters.

    if filling stops short by a big margin, you may have a sticky or faulty safety cut-off valve ..

    after refilling, recheck for leaks around the hose unions.. spray with some soapy water .. watch for very small bubbles..

    post results.

    if at all unsure have the system checked by a dealer..
     
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    You may have found the reason?
    Did you actually fill both bottles or just one? How long did the second one last?
    Can you remember how many litres went in? Jim says it should have been around 24.
    Interested to see how you get on with the system as we'd maybe think about it.
     
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    I will take Vanessa and refill her today.Just off the top of my head I think our fill was around £14 so I thought that would be both bottles.

    Just so im getting this correctly... the lever that moves between the bottles I put in the central position when filling last time thinking it would fill both bottles, is this right that the LPG automatically fills both?

    The first bottle seemed to last for ages but the 2nd bottle was only used for 3 days and very little. It was only changed over at Goole last sat night and we were home on Monday, then 9nly got another few hours out of it last night before it went empty.
     
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    I think the valve you mention is to select which bottle is in use,, not which one is filled.. both should fill without moving this valve

    but don't know your system.. do you have a picture ?
     
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    watching your outcome with interest Sandra, we have a newly fitted Gaslo system, on first filling which was an attended service, he struggled to get any gas in at all, a colleague came out and redid the process and got 20 litres in, but I had no idea how much we had in before he started (bought cylinders second hand and part full). We have no gauge with ours, and have an absolute manual changeover where I need to move the regulator, (like we did with our Calor system) so will know which cylinder we are taking from, but I am nervous that my second bottle could actually be nearly empty before we even use it

    Will be refilling before Stratford anyway as we have had 30 nights away on the one cylinder already (some on hook up but most not)

    I suspected your filling only did the one cylinder, but there is no way to know which has filled, unless you know for sure both are empty (as you do now) so you will be expecting a double cylinder fill, I think litres are roughly 2 per kg and then allow for the 80% limit, so if my maths are right, 2 x 6kg will take 5kg each so 20 litres in total @ around 70p litre should only be £14, so your original logic was right and a small leak is sounding ominously likely :(
     
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    Just had gaslow fitted - 2x 6kg
    I thought that 80% would be about 20litres, however gaslow leaflet suggests 24 litres (which at 500gms per litre is 100% surely :unsure:?) BUT to keep an eye on the pump as occasionally the cutoff doesn't work on the first fill :eek:... plus my installer suggested that a partial first fill best ensures everything works.
    So I chickened out at just over 20 litres which was about £13 - so that @irnbru suggests to me that your £14 was a full fill.
     
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    yes, just as I said..

    the selector valve is on the takeoff pipes,

    the fill line is on the top of the bottles and fills both at the same time

    the bottles are sized for the amount they can hold at 80% fill .. so a 6kg bottle at 80% holds 12 lt
     
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    Aha! @ScotJimland thanks
    That makes sense.
     
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    Results to refill : 22.71 L = £12.47
     
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    Do you run the fridge all the time on gas, I was just leaving it on all the time and was surprised how quickly a 13kg cylinder disappeared. I now use 12v when travelling and hook up whenever possible and the consumption has dropped, the hook up also does the hot water so in summer the gas just does the cooking and seems to last for ages.
     
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    We have a single 11kg went to France off hook up last year used a bit more than half in 9 nights all hot water and cooking (no heating) big gas fridge freezer sounds like you may have a leak.
     
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