Lpg bottle adapter and filling

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  1. Andy - V8 Diesel

    Andy - V8 Diesel Read Only Funster

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    Hi there just bought one of these of ebay LPG PROPANE AUTOGAS RED BOTTLE GAS FILLING ADAPTER on eBay, also Mobile Touring Caravan Parts, Caravan Parts, Campers, Caravans Motorhomes, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 27-Apr-09 18:56:04 BST)
    to fill the red gas bottles up.
    I got it in the post today so attached to the bottle went to the filling station at the east lancs a580 near Leigh couple up the gas pump looked up and the women in the station waving her arms screaming over the speaker your not filling gas bottles up here :Eeek::Eeek:
    This is a total garage and she said its company policy is this right:Eeek:
    Also anyone no where i can fill up in the Manchester area and do you have to do this sneaky and hide what you are doing:Doh:
    I did explain its how they fill the bottle up but she was having none of it. There loss no fuel bought of them was going to put 120 liters of diesel in as well:BigGrin:
     
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    my van runs on lpg and nearly every garage i go to has a sign up saying no adapters. so i presume this must mean for bottled gas.
     
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    How then do people get away with filling gaslow bottles up or do i spray my bottle YELLOW:Eeek::Eeek:
     
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    i think most folks with gaslow's will have a fixed filler on the side of the van so as far as the petrol attendant knows ,you are filling your fixed LPG tank.

    leave the gas can in the locker and fill it there,

    same applies to petrol......try filling a clear, plastic container.....they wont let you...:Sad:(or shouldnt)

    when i was a kid we used to buy petrol in old pop bottles for the field bikes...no problem 40 years ago.
    no bloody health and safety mumbo-jumbo either:thumb:
     
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    I bought one as well from the same place, I tried it in the bottle & opened the valve & it is leaking through the non return valve. I have emailled the dealer & waiting for his response:Eeek:.
    I have just signed up for a keycard from COUNTRYWIDE their filling stations are 24 hour & you are billed using their keycard direct from your bank. The gas is also cheaper, downside is they don't have that many filling stations.
     
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    And why not ? If you get it wrong she could be aiding you killing yourself and a few others.

    Add to that the fact that you are filling a Calor bottle against the owners agreement.

    Now on the other hand, in Congleton the LPG pump has a sign: "Adaptor for filling Calor available in the office".

    Funny old world.
     
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    Hi Andy, :Rofl1: it is a case of what the eye does not see :Rofl1:
    I only have 2 small 3.9 kg bottles (which are small and awkward to get the filler on if they are loose) so they are fastened into my gas locker to hold them in place :BigGrin: never had a problem :thumb:--If I fill my home b-b-q bottle I just leave it inside the habitation door and fill it there or if in the car leave it in the boot, sand it upright to fill and lay it back down after filling and close the boot :thumb:
    Don't go for the 87 % full ---- but stick to 80% or less :thumb: and do not forget to turn off the valve on the bottle :thumb::Rofl1:
    It will soon pay for its self :thumb:
    Then you can get all the flack from others about using / having such a thing :thumb::Rofl1::Rofl1::Wink::Cool:
    terry
    edit where can I get a smiley with a crash helmet heehee
     
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    Purly out of interest does it really matter if it,s standing upright to fill, im asking cos i dont know, not picking holes in your post
    Geo
     
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    As the gas pump actually cuts out on the back pressure from the tank/bottle being filled how is it any different to gaslow or other installation. You follow exactly the same procedure with the same fittings. the pressure relief valve does not operate on normal filling. So provided you start with and empty bottle and can read you are safer with and adepter. Please don't keep on poo pooing the idea of adaptors until you have actually used one or seen one in use. everybody is free to decide if they can read, count and remember to turn the valve off at the bottle on their own. By checking the amount of gas going in it is an additional safeguard not the only one.
     
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    Hi Geo I do not know :Rofl1: it is purely that it stands still on the base instead of rolling around :Rofl1::Rofl1:
    terry
     
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    :thumb:Hi there thanks for all you answers i will simply hide my bottle from now on.:thumb:

    Also if any one can answer can you fill them lying down as this would be better as i could cover my bottle up in the back of my truck (19kg bottle:Eeek::Eeek:) and fill it :thumb::thumb:

    Cheers

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    :Laughing::Laughing: some say this is the best way :Rofl1::Rofl1: :Blush:
     
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    Hi Andy, all I can say is give it a go :thumb: it may well fill to the 38 ltrs max or cut out when it reaches the level of liquid gas (about half) either way it will not matter as you will only pay for the gas you put in :thumb: AND YOU WILL HAVE IT STOOD UP for use :thumb::Rofl1::Rofl1:
    terry
     
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    :thumb:Thanks again i give it a go with the bottle lay on its side the bottle is empty so was hoping to get about 30litres in it:thumb:
     
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    There's a pressure relief valve on the top of the cylinder Geo.

    When things go wrong the PRV pops.

    If the cylinder is upright, it vents gas, which cools the contents and reduces pressure.

    If the cylder is on it's side, it vents liquid, which doesn't cool the contents, and doesn't reduce the pressure.

    If the venting liquid catches fire, one gets a very impressive flame thrower.

    It's not too nice if the vapour one ignites either, but a lot less dangerous.

    And as you know, what can go wrong, will go wrong Geo.
     
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    Hi Andy,If your bottle is a 19 kg one then this will give you a max (80%) fill of 38 ltrs. This will come no where near to blowing the PRV :thumb: but it will be interesting to see if it allows you to fill to the 38 ltrs on it side :thumb: As said before never use it on its side as this would allow the liquid gas to get into your pipes :Eeek: then it becomes extremely dangerous :Eeek::Eek!::Eeek::BigGrin:
    terry
     
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    I procured a 47kg propane bottle to use while static in the UK .. filling at the garage is about half the price of a Calor exchange.. never had a problem filling.
     
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    There's no difference between filling on the side, and filling standing up Terry.

    Stacker truck cylinders operate on their side.
    It's fine to fill them on their side, as long as you have the correct side at the top.
    They have a hockey stick from the PRV to the top of the cylinder, ie to where the gas is.
     
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    Liquid propane is exceptionally unlikely to get in the pipes Terry.
    In my experience, it never gets further than the pressure reducing valve.

    The nuisance is that the pressure reducing valve freezes up, and stops the flow of propane.

    I've spent many a happy time holding the pressure reducing valve in my freezing pinky to overcome the problem.
     

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