loves and hates, New Motorhome, touring park

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  1. Ian.s

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    I have an opportunity with a brand new development here in the highlands. A 60 unit park, what do you want to see, what don't you want to see. What's important, flat pitches, toilets, showers, bins fire points , adults only, play areas, metered boxes, etc

    Warts and all...... Hope to up and running for Easter 2017. Your thoughts
     
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  2. mike mcglynn

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    Helo Ian a great many points to consider but easy access and good signage some hook ups and level pitches clean toilets and perhaps a few showers with chemical disposal points nearby ,fresh water supply and not too far from a few shops that would do it for me Oban is a fine place and I'm sure you will be very busy in the future Good Luck .
     
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    As above and hopefully near public transport..
     
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    Good luck with your plans and dreams :)

    Level pitches please, I often wonder why when so much effort has been put in that they were not made more level than a lot seem to be

    A big issue for me has been a lack of access to low level dump for black waste, we have a black tank and only have gravity to get rid of it, decanting isn't nice but often the only option
     
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    Being able to have a pitch with out being forced to have EHU as in the CCC sites do. They say your paying for the hard standing not the electric so you might as well use the electric as your paying for it anyway. With vans being more self sufficient this is a waste.
     
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    You'll get so many different takes on this I doubt you will be able to make sense of them all!

    At one end there will be the "we just want a field, no services of any sort" and at the other end of the scale will be "heated toilet blocks, hard standing, level pitches etc."

    If it's any help my sister in law is opening a much smaller site in Sussex and they are going for the luxury end of the market, including posh cabins.

    Also worth visiting a Caravan Club site, there are several in Scotland, as they represent generally the best sites in terms of facilities - and in my experience they are very popular - and usually have many more caravans on them than motorhomes, so don't forget that market.

    My suggestion would be to see how it goes, assuming this is already a going concern. You might find the biggest market is in static caravans/cabins, this is how a lot of sites in France for example are going, with only a few touring pitches.

    The touring market in Scotland is negligible in winter and if that all you are relying on you might as well shut over the winter. But if you want to be open all year round then unless the site is built on sand and drains well you will need some hard standing pitches. A bar serving food will also drag them in over the winter, especially if you have statics.
     
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    Considering the weather in UK, Hard standings !!!
    they've got to be a must.
     
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    As a motorhomer (rather than a camper or caravanner) I don't need toilets and showers becuse I already have one of each. What I want is good position (near interesting/beautiful places and public transport), hardstanding level pitches that are easy to get into, good and plentiful water and dump bays and a cpd.

    But I am sure others will want very different things, and there will be little consensus on this forum about it!

    Good luck and I hope you succeed.
     
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    Hi Ian

    The more you put in the more you will have to charge to cover it, but saying that everybody's wants are different.

    Flat hard standing will be pretty high up peoples priorities, if you put in electric metered is fair, drive over waste point that is accessible a large funnel area not just a little drain that people will miss, complete with black tank dump point at ground level, and cassette dump point as well of course, toilets and showers not high on my list of requirements but WiFi would be good.

    Space for big rigs as well as smaller ones.

    Oh and wall to wall sunshine.

    Martin
     
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    seconded..

    A model that works..

    the only addition I would suggest is to have metered electric..
     
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    Not much for us.
    water, black waste disposal & a levelish pitch all within walking distance of a shop.
    wifi would be a bonus.
     
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    Another vote for metered electric,
     
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    Flat and level pitches generally with a hard standing and electricity point. Nice view,welcome and in the west of Scotland dry sunny days, beautiful sunsets and no midges. But I realise you don't always get what you want.
     
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    Hi Ian.
    No doubt you will get many ideas on here, you won't be able to please everyone and I'm sure some suggestions may be out of your control ( local transport, satelite and tv signals) but well done for asking first, if it goes well you will have many visitors from this forum.
    First thing I would love is a site that is not laid out in regimental straight lines where each unit must face in a certain direction with their off side rear lined up with a peg! Put some curves in it, make a selection of large and smaller pitches always ensuring there is good separation for what ever orientation the visitor chooses to place their van. Remember most like sunshine on the awning side, but not all and of course the vans can be continental so awning and door on the other side. Make it a selection of hard and grass pitches and if hard then either larger sized gravel or hard packed, nothing worse than that small stuff getting muddy and in the van. If you are thinking of luxury then water, drainage at some of the pitches, if not then ensure nobody needs to walk too far to fill up or empty water. Apart from old bones...!, the service points are often somewhere where folks meet up and have a chat. For our four legged friends, make sure there us a designated area where they can take their masters for walkies. If you can, have low level lighting around the site, high level is OK but can be annoying if it shines in through the topflight and you like to see the stars before you drift off to sleep.
    A small shop, or sell essentials at the reception if you are some distance from other facilities is always appreciated.
    Not sure how far you want to develop the site but hope these ideas might be of use in your planning.
    Regards. Pete
     
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    Hi Ian

    We took a orchard to an awArd winning, which we opened in 205

    www.cornishfarm.com

    Happy to answer any questions if I can

    Regards

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    Why not include a drive over drain and water poit/chemical disposal for those touring but not staying. If a reasonable charge were made it could earn you extra income without taking up a pitch and if it looks nice some might change their minds and stay if a pitch is available. It might be best to consider what would make your business profitable rather than what others want!! I would like it dead cheap and basic.
     
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    I'm going to go against the majority view here.

    The CC model is one I hate. I think Lyndon Top is the ideal model and Shell Island isn't far behind.

    Grass, no marked out pitches - go where you like, however you like, as long as you aren't too close to anyone else, water, black waste points and that's about it. I suppose a drive over grey drain would be nice but not essential.
     
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    Nice area, walks etc
    Peaceful
    Adults only
    Good access think RV's
    Leval pitches hard standing open all year
    Metered ehu - pay for what you use
    Water on pitch
    Drainage on pitch
    Wi fi a bonus
    Motorhome service point, drive over to dump tanks etc
    Good toilets and showers
    Good size pitches with hedges between
    Good luck with your venture, keep us posted. (y)
     
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    As someone has said you'll get a wide spectrum of views. We're at the very casual end of the scale, we totally avoid CC style/'luxury' sites that are too formal.

    We like a relaxed vibe where everybody feels welcome regardless of their size and age of van,
    flat reasonable sized pitches are an obvious need,
    good (and warm - especially in Scotland!) shower/toilet blocks because although we have these on board we prefer to use facilities and not steam up etc the van,
    good disposal points,
    recycling points,
    reasonable access to hook-ups and water,
    reserved places as we take our van out to explore and it is nice to know our plot is ours when we return,
    no topiary or twee-ness,
    22.00 noise curfew,
    good information on the local area,
    if space allows (but not essential) a dog walking area or information on where we can walk her near the site (we always scoop so perhaps a dog poop bin...we appreciate that's not very nice for you though).
    A communal seating area is always welcome (but not essential) as it gives a chance to relax away from the van and chat with others - maybe even serve coffee and snacks if there's enough people on site (but I guess that would have to pay it's way).

    We're hopefully heading up to tour Scotland in May so keep us all updated on how you're doing and we will pop in for a few days. Good luck.
     
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  20. Clarky

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    Location, location, location (where have I heard that before).
    A great view is the No 1 for us, preferably over water but not essential. So, a site not surrounded by trees and high hedges.
    As our van is over 4 tons hard standings are good but we have no need of loos and showers, that's what we paid all that money for when we bought the van.
    Adults only is a bonus.

    Richard.
     
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