Leisure battery has breathed its last!

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  1. westy77

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    our leisure battery ran low and set the low level alarm off this weekend. We had only been set up 24 hours with our normal use. We have camped three days before and this not happen so I'm guessing the battery is toast? I have no idea how old it is or the life it lead. The van is a 2005 but we have only had it about a year and a half. There is a sticker on the battery that says "BAE Leisure Battery U.K.679 110Ah". I cannot see any mention of the Ah size in any of the paperwork that came with the van except there is a brochure for the Adria range that mentions "additional 88Ah battery". Ours is a Coral 670SK. What I need to know is what size to put in? Another 110?
     
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    the biggest you can manage.
     
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    i would get your charging system checked first expensive mistake buying a battery when you realy need a charger or solar reg
     
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    Ok thanks. One other thing is I keep seeing reference to vent tubes. The battery in our van is inside the hab area under one of the living room seats. I did not notice any tubes going to outside the van!
     
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    I don't have solar panels. Regards the van charging it seems to be charging as the battery ran low last time we used it but I just put it down to a lot of use as it rained so we were in the van more. We do have an inverter hooked onto the battery too. When it went flat I started the van and left it running which put some charge in the battery, ticking over for 10-20 mins got us through till the next day.
     
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    It sounds as though in the past year and a half you may not have checked your battery's condition. You may be able to recover your battery simply by topping up the cells and charging with a decent charger( 3 stage......you may have one in your van).
    It is important to check the levels in the cells to maintain the battery in good condition.

    Running engine on tick over will never full charge the Hab battery........you will firstly charge your engine battery before it charges the hab battery

    I would check the levels before i spent any money on anything.....if low, top up with pre boiled water and charge on electric hookup overnight.
     
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    It depends on the dimensions. Our battery is also under the seat but height restrictions mean we are limited in what we can use. The battery referred to would fit length and width ways but is some 5cm too tall. It is important to check the measurements before buying - as well as following previous advice posted.
     
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    you can only safely use half the capacity of a leisure battery how big is the inverter you are using
    ?
     
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    Just looked at battery. It looks like it's never had the top up screws out as they were like new, but looking in each the levels are higher than the plates and near to what I presume is a level marker.

    The inverter we have is a 1000W, it's mainly used for charging phones/iPad. Although we did try the toaster on a low setting which did work. This was the first occasion the battery warning light came on a couple of trip ago.

    On our charging/power unit there is a switch for either Lead Gel or Lead Acid. I'm presuming I have a lead acid battery as it has the top up screws and water inside? The switch was on lead gel.

    The battery TheBig1 linked above will fit in the space I have. It's under the living room seat which is just behind the drivers seat. But I cannot see a vent tube at all. Should there be something going to outside the van?
     
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    if its been charged on GEL regime, the lead acid battery will be knackered with damaged plates. the majority of batteries these days are no maintenance sealed. often they still retain the screw down cell caps but generally a blob of glue stops them being unscrewed

    as for venting, there should be a small pipe out of the top part of the battery venting through the floor. if a battery is over charged or faulty it releases dangerous gasses. when you fit a new battery make sure a vent is fitted
     
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    Ok thank you, I don't seem to have the option to vent out of the battery enclosure to outside.
     
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    I have 12V usb socket and a 135Ah battery on its way. Thanks for all the input.
     
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    We use a cigarette lighter USB which we got from Amazon - think it was about a tenner for 2 doubles.

    We were in the Apple shop yesterday and they had one which I think was about £30!

    Denise
     
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    In our Adria there is a grill in the bottom corner of the battery compartment leading outside which I presume is for venting, as there are no tubes on our existing batteries.

    Also I've just learnt you should not get more battery power than your charger can cope with(Simples really) So our Electrobloc 226 is rated at 18A which apparently means you should only have a battery bank up to 180Ah.I thought you could have as much as you wanted and it would just take longer to charge.
    Was leaning towards new Varta batteries but has anyone got any observations on this Explorer range.
     
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    the explorer calcium batteries have near double the rated charging cycles and a 5 year warranty. should be fine to charge at lead acid voltage regime.

    as for sticking to 10x the rated output of the charger. thats a piece of advice thats been around a long time. plenty of people ignore this though and add 3 or 4 100ah batteries with no ill effect. just takes longer to reach the fully charged maintenance level
     
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    the explorer calcium batteries have near double the rated charging cycles and a 5 year warranty. should be fine to charge at lead acid voltage regime.

    as for sticking to 10x the rated output of the charger. thats a piece of advice thats been around a long time. plenty of people ignore this though and add 3 or 4 100ah batteries with no ill effect. just takes longer to reach the fully charged maintenance level
     
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    You do with careful use of a battery drill and a 10mm drill bit.

    Better to drill a hole in the floor, fit a vent tube and seal it than blow the van to bits if the battery begins gassing and theres a spark.
     
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    Some Aldi stores have the ciggie lighter to USB double charger in stock.... about £4 I think. I got two, one for the van and one for the car.

    You can also get solar charged energy banks, mine was a Lidl special. It charges it's own internal batteries from the sun (or you can plug it into a mains supply when you get an opportunity) and then use a USB lead to transfer the power from the energy bank to your phone / tablet when needed.
     
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