Layout - will it work/is it any good?

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  1. Tino11

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    Van layout.jpg Evening/morning all,

    I have worked out a layout of what I would like if I do end up doing a PVC. I don't have a van at present so I've had to use measurements from the internet and hope they are accurate. I wouldn't be building it, I'd have to find help or pay a tradesman etc.

    The van I would use has the following internal dimensions - L 4070mm (xlwb), W 1870mm and H 2172mm.

    I don't have any fancy drawing software so it's just been done in 'Paint' with gridlines on. :D I have used internal measurements of - W 1850mm and L - 4060 - This is to allow for insulation, ply etc.

    I haven't put eye level cabinets on or windows but there will be some where space allows. I'm not sure where the pipes, pump, boiler etc would go but there is space under the sofabed and because it is the H3 extra high roof then the floor could be built up a bit.

    I've tried to allow for some 15mm furniture boards in the measurements, I realise some of the draw fronts and doors are a bit thicker.

    Any feedback and suggestions would be great, thank you. (y)
     
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    It's an original layout with that central shower but I think there is a lot of wasted space and a lack of under worktop storage. For example the floor space next to the side door is going to be virtually unused most of the time. Our Murvi Morocco has a very different layout producing a lot more storage space and kitchen worktop than your design. I suggest looking at the websites of a number of PVC converters and look at their designs for inspiration.
     
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    Looks good to me. Someone does make a motorhome with a central shower.
     
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    Hi, layout is very personal preference -what works for one may not be liked/worked for another --lots like a rear U lounge that gets made into a bed -but most of this type I see with people who actually stay in there vans end up leaving it made up as a bed :Dand throw stuff on it during the day usually sitting on the driver/passenger seats :)-I personally like the set up in my ex ambulance which has rear LH,side loo/shower followed by a wardrobe -RH side is a L shaped kitchen from loo around to leave space for 2 x 6' 6" single beds that can be made into various combos to end up with a 6' 6" sq bed -then both front seats swivel so that when entertaining etc everyone is in the one area leaving access to the kitchen/fridge area (y)rather than trying to squeeze into the U lounge and leaving 2 people at the front of the van leaning around what is inevitably the loo :D Works great for me but may not work for you(y)-look around a lot and imagine having 3 or 4 friends in the van if it's raining ;) no problem if it's sun shine you all will sit outside /raining very different matter or you could always go into your mates van :D
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    Lot's around Andy but they are almost all in CB vans not in the smaller confines of a PV ;)
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    Many years ago I had a Camelot, the shower was at the back but in the central aisle with a cover which lifted off to reveal the shower tray. Never actually used it though.
     
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    I've added a foldable/slidable worktop that will run width ways near the cabin area. As you look at the picture, from the right hand side of the bathroom overhead drawers will run along the rest of that side, across the back and all the way along the opposite side. It's only me (maybe a chick or two along the way :whistle:) so that's plenty storage for me :D. I'd like to keep as much floor space and a feeling of light etc as I can.

    I was thinking of the Adria Twin which has something similar. I've seen it in another Van conversion too but can't remember which one.
    http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/Information/The-Motorhome-Awards-2013-high-top-van

    Anyway Terry I might end up asking you to build it, for a fee of course (y):D
     

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    [QUOTE="Tino11, post: 1067899,

    Anyway Terry I might end up asking you to build it, for a fee of course (y):D[/QUOTE]
    Here you go one already built to drive away --we can alter things after ;) 15k and its yours -- file:
    http://terryshbautocampers.co.uk/
    terry
     
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    Here you go one already built to drive away --we can alter things after ;) 15k and its yours -- file:
    http://terryshbautocampers.co.uk/
    terry[/QUOTE]

    It is very nice Terry, you've done a really good job but I definitely want to start from an empty shell and make it my own. ;)
     
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    Hate to say this but how are you going to stop water leaking both sides ?or are you going to have step down into shower tray ?or step up ?-IMO it's a shit layout :DJust wanting to be different for difference sake --how do you get from back to front of van ? there's a bloody w top in the way :doh:
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    Well that's not very nice! :D The shower tray has a track that runs around the outside and a screen is pulled around it when in use, totally water tight. A step up can be done, or a cover incorparated across the tray. I'm definitely not trying to be "different for differemce sake", the Adria Twin and other vans already have the tray in the middle, it's about maximising space. The foldable worktop near the cabin was just an idea, if there is no way of incorporating it without stopping walking through from the cabin then I wouldn't bother with that part.

    In terms of keeping it light and airy, full site from the drivers seat all the way to the rear window (not for rear vision but for light etc), I haven't seen much better ;).
     
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    THIS IS THE LAYOUT IN MY AMBULANCE P1000374.JPG P1000375.JPG P1000376.JPG P1000377.JPG P1000378.JPG P1000379.JPG
     
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    AND SOME MORE P1000380.JPG P1000382.JPG P1000383.JPG P1000384.JPG P1000385.JPG P1000386.JPG P1000388.JPG P1000380.JPG P1000382.JPG P1000383.JPG P1000384.JPG P1000386.JPG P1000388.JPG
     
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    OK I will reserve judgement until I have seen one ;)(y)Still does not make much sense to me to have a shower in the middle that pulls across it just screams leak or trip to me ;)
    terry
     
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    So I'm not trying to be that different then Terry ;) :D. Your ambulance layout is the type of look/feel i'm going for, I just don't have the width (even though i'm going for the widest van) that you have in the ambulance, which is why i'm saving space with the shower tray.

    Watch the video on this page, about 1min 40secs in is where he shows the shower screen and tray. ;)
    http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/Information/The-Motorhome-Awards-2013-high-top-van
     
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    I have a very small coach-built with a shower- room in the middle.

    I am quite happy with it but if I were to re-model I would have kitchen and shower at back and bed/lounge/dinette area next to front seats (passenger seat swivels anyway)
     
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    I CAN UNDERSTAND THE DOOR BITS BUT the shower tray bit confuses me :D does not take a lot I know (y)I will have to go to a show one day and nick some ideas :)
    BTW my ambulance is only 6'6" wide the fiat/pug/cits are supposed to be 6'4" (y) but yes once the screens are down she is very airy and everyone is seated in the one big area (y)No doubt when I do another for me I will be sticking very close to the ambulance layout -it just works ;)maybe lift the fridge a bit :)
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    Aye it confuses me too :D! I think the floor must be raised but the tray sunk slightly so it sits just under the height of the floor and then the screens slide over the top of sides? :confused:, something like that anyway. Your ambulance layout is by far the best i've seen, even compared to the pro conversions (y). If I do get a van i'm getting the XLWB and Extra High, (L4070, W1870, H2172mm) so it at least gives space to build up in places.

    If you ever fancy hiring out your furniture building skills you can PM me what it would cost to build my layout ;)(y):).
     
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    They do indeed I & I've got one.

    Look at the Globecar or Pozzi range. (Same van, different branding in different countries).

    Good use of space. Yes, you can't get front to back when someone is in there, but in our van, it's only the fixed bed behind it. Depends how long you spend in the shower as to whether it's a problem! Main problem is that it also blocks the door to the fridge, which stops you having breakfast while OH is in the shower, unless you plan ahead. When I'm away on my own, it's never a problem!

    It has a sliding tambour door. No it doesn't leak.

    Everything is a compromise in a PVC. If the shower wasn't there, it would have to be dead space somewhere else that you only used for a few minutes each day (week??). It won't suit everyone, but it's a compromise that I can live with to gain the space elsewhere.
     
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    [QUOTE="Tino11, post: 1068007,

    If you ever fancy hiring out your furniture building skills you can PM me what it would cost to build my layout ;)(y):).[/QUOTE]
    I am certain arrangements can be made (y) only the other day Paul and myself were on about sticking a add on ebay etc,offering to convert peoples own vans -that way we don't have the hassel of selling them IE already sold :D converting them is easy -we already have 3 to sell but getting someone to come and look/buy is the hard bit :)
     
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