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  1. Revolvor

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    Filled the van with a fairly representative load, 3/4 of a tank of fuel, full fresh water, empty waste, awning, food and my wife and me.

    Gross: 3070 kg
    Front: 1500 kg
    Rear: 1570 kg

    I can now estimate weights for additional payload, as it is added, taking into account how it will affect each axle.

    I then looked at the plates under the bonnet, and am confused, as the Fiat and Autotrail figures differ by quite a lot.

    I appreciate that makes no difference to tyre pressures, which I can now determine from the
    Continental Tyre Pressure table, but which plate applies to the legal amount that I can load the front and rear axles?

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    The Autotrail one.
     
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    Interesting, but I wonder why? Fiat designed the suspension and chassis.
     
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    think i might stick some wide insulating tape over the autotrail one .
     
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    And Autotrail may have downrated it for a reason.

    You use whichever one you choose but you asked a question and that's the answer (y)
     
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    Because Autotrail have already loaded '10 ton' of contents when they converted it into a Moho, so you only get whats left!
     
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    don't matter what AutoTrail fitted, that only affects the payload , not the MAM

    What does your V5 say .. or doesn't it say ?

    whatever it says is the legal MAM

    typical V5.. Revenue Weight>>>

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    @NicNic Yes, thank you, I value everyone's replies ... that's why I posted. I had just hoped the answer would be "Fiat"!
     
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    Zilch!! Nothing against Revenue weight. Just PLG for Taxation Class
     
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    @NickNic is right as the second stage conversion will be what they have designed and tested it for
     
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    I'd take the Autotrail sticker. Keep you legal and safe. While fiat make and plated it, they probably didn't forecast which chassis ends up becoming a motorhome.

    Is it an Alko chassis, as then it would be different from the fiat plate, as the fiat chassis would have been removed during conversion :)
     
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    Without trying to open a can of worms I suggest you could speak to SVTech who should be able to advise if the weight can be increased just by a paper exercise. However, it is just possible the converter fitted lower rated spring to improve the ride quality.
     
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    I don't believe so. I think it is standard Fiat
     
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    why not just ask autotrail it might just be a mistake .
     
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    Does the rear chassis have springs for suspension, if so its a standard chassis.

    Alko Chassis rear.
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    Standard leaf springs.
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    Hope it helps :)
     
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    Best bet is to ring Autotrail first and ask them - it seems weird that they have down rated it to 3300kg rather than leave it at 3500kg - it doesn't make sense for them to do this as there is no licence, road tax etc difference whether it's 3300kg or 3500kg. Unless they have modified the original Fiat base running gear, chassis, springs etc to reduce their capacity for the higher weight I can't see any reason why you shouldn't be able to get it put back up to 3500kg as a paper exercise yourself with the DVLA (or whatever it's called now!) without having to use SVTech or the 'cheaper' chap I used.
     
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    might need anything at all . just ask then scrap the autotrail sticker . the fiat one will do. if dvla havnt got it on the log book bet they dont know anything . be interesting to hear what autotrail say.
     
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    Not sure of this is relevant but the hand book for our Chausson (10 plate and on a FIAT base) says 3300 but both the FIAT and Chausson plates say 3500. It would be very interesting to find out what Autotrail say ...... did they ask FIAT and be told 3300 for some reason?
     
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    Thanks for all the replies. It is definitely a Fiat Chassis. I will contact Autotrail, and post when I get a reply.
    John
     
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