IVA/1c new import

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  1. Norman Jones

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    After 3 weeks DVLA have sent our documents back insisting on a IVA/1c test on our new Hymer MLi620 imported from Belgium. Anyone had experience of this? Nerve racking.
    Norm
     
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    When we did our Hymer last year paperwork went through in a couple of weeks no hassle.we did have BVS do the import for us so they did all the paperwork for us to send off.
     
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    I would contact Hymer and ask for the type approval documents..
    Bloody nightmare mate..
    Although it should sail through an IVA, from memory the cost is bloody scary.. AND you are gonna have to find a testing station
     
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    It looks as if the max cost would be £199 - I suggest ringing the DVSA as they are very helpful (yes really!) and will advise you if you need to do it or not as it's no different to what a dealer would import anyway.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...roval-iva-inspection-fees-from-1-october-2014
     
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    Very good advice, the helpline at the DVLA talked me through the whole form, it's a bit of a nightmare especially if your van falls in the crossover period in the early 2000's but in our case actually without the CoC but with the German MOT and registration docs no IVA was needed and about 50% of the form becomes not applicable. Did they say why it was required?
     
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    Did you go through the UK Mutual certificate of conformity process with the VCA before trying to register with the DVLA or did you just send the the EU CoC to them?
     
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    Its at times like this Eddie's (Judge Mental) input was invaluable (I do so miss his posts :() ... I know he helped a lot of people do this so are any of them able to help this chap out?
     
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  8. Norman Jones

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    It's brand new. We followed DVLA advice, included receipts etc, CoC and Type Approval supplied (Mercedes and Hymer) . Paid VAT. Rang every day for a fortnight "Not on the system yet" then next day they sent it all back because the CoC doesn't state that the speedo is mph and lights are right because we had that sorted by the dealer. Spent all day filling the new IVA/1c up, (£100) now they say it takes 3-4 weeks for them to look at the form. BIG SIGH.

    Nearest testing stations are well over 100 miles from Aberystwyth, looks like it'll take till autumn at this rate. Looked forward to our new van for so long.
     
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    You don't need to do the iva. The VCA process is designed to avoid that by converting your existing CoC to a Uk compliant one. all you need is an inspection letter from any local garage and the correct form from the VCA website. (It'll still cost £100 but they tend to process it in 5-10 days and you can use a local garage rather than an inspection centre)

    http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/vehicle-importing/vehicle-importing-information.asp

    Also have a look at the great advice here, with step be step instructions. ( Though do use new vehicle v55/4 not the used one v55/5)

    http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/importing-a-frankia-motorhome.81297/#post-958858

    if you PM me your email details I can send you copies of draft letters I created. One for your garage to copy onto their letterhead for the VCA. One covering letter for your DVLA application.
     
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    Hi.If you PM me i have just gone through the whole process.It took 6 weeks as the VCA messed me about-also the Vat nova did a cock up.I did all the required forms correctly but due to incompetence by 2government departmentsit took 6 weeks.Just got number plates 2 days ago.
     
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    It doesnt appear any different than when dvla had local offices.
    Take your docs for something to be changed and you may have been told ...no, you cant do that.
    Go back next day, see someone else and get it done without problems.

    Dvsa are only as good as the desk jockey attending your enquiry....and a lot of them are clueless when it comes to ' out of the ordinary' problems.
     
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    Also, here's link to the official gov website explaining the whole import process step by step.

    https://www.gov.uk/importing-vehicles-into-the-uk/overview

    The important bit is this --


    "If the vehicle’s registered in the EU
    Get a European Certificate of Conformity from the manufacturer to show you have approval for an EU-registered vehicle.
    You also have to get a certificate of Mutual Recognition if it’s a left hand drive vehicle."


    I suspect the DVLA helpline you spoke to didnt think about the LHD bit:-(
     
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    Thank you for your advice, the telephone advisors just seem to read the first thing off their screens.
    Here's our email.
    blakeley@graphics.wanadoo.co.uk
     
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    The long and short of it is. Ours has never been registered in a EU country. The person at DVLA said that an inspection at a local MOT station is not enough and we had to apply for IVA/1C at a test centre.
     
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    They are still at crossed purposes. He is rightt that an mot is not enough, but the VCA process isn't an Mot. It's a check to enable a mutual certificate of recognition to be issued. Any garage can do the check as long as it's vat registered..it's meant to be easy and reduce the load on the certification centresr. You give the VCA your eu CoC a signed statement from your gaeage, their application form, £100, and they give you back a UK CoC which will then be accepted by the DVLA as proof you van passes all the compliance checks AND has rhd headlamps, foglights and mph speedo.

    The wording on the quote I used is misleading as I think it means the vehicle TYPE is registered in the EU.. As long as you have the eu CoC from Campirama you can follow the process with the VCA. I bought a new Hymer from Campirama in Nov last year and registered it that way in 15 working days and have since helped several other people to do the same.....

    Suggest it's worth giving the VCA a call I think. They are very helpful and probably understand the initial process better than the DVLA.

    Alternatively give the DVLA a call and ask directly f they will accept a mutual certificate of compliance from the VCA- maybe that will get their q+a system into the right area:)
     
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    I have just spoken to VCA an they insisted that they only deal with previously registered vehicles.
     
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    I spoke to a girl at the VCA when i was having the same sort of problems and she was very helpful and steered me in the right diretion.
    Her name was Gemma Hill and the phone number was: 0117 952 4195

    Hope this helps
    Rob
     
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    Just spoke to Gemma, and she said the same thing, they only deal with vehicles that have been previously registered in the EU. Not brand new ones.
     
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    Might have to eat humble pie here. It looks like they might have changed the rules very recently (someone else I spoke to managed to get through the old VCA process only a month ago!!) and now seem to insist on a new basic iva for unregistered vans. That will teach me to read the links in more detail.....in my defence the high level looked the same...

    Sorry for misleading you Norman. Seems like you will be the guinea pig for this and can then be the expert to help those who follow:)
     
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