Internal cleaning of the engine with Hydrogen;...descaling

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  1. yodeli

    yodeli Funster Life Member

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    Max is due to have his MOT beginning of May. I'm a bit anxious with exaust pollution. Sorry if not the way to say , please correct me, but I know you'll understand what I mean.

    I have taken an appointment on saturday afternoon with a cleaning station (part of a garage) , which gets rid of the scale with hydrogen , but thought I would ask your opinionon on this matter.

    Have you ever heard of this cleaning method? I suppose they send hydrogen with pressure... Yes? No? Have you tried it yourself (I mean on your van Silly Billy you !lol!) ? Any feedback anyone? Do you think it could damage other parts of the engine(it's an old one 1991!) .

    Thank you all in anticipation for your advices and opinions!
     
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    Never heard of cleaning with Hydrogen, but Terracleaning in the U.K. seems to be popular, although I'd be wary with an older high mileage engine as sometimes it's the years of accumulated '' gunk '' that's holding it together :eek:
     
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    Best thing to do with a EGRV is blank it off - around £5 for a 2/3mm stainless steel plate off e-bay - without a hole in it.:)
     
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    It looks like a French company and only outlets in France at the moment, I doubt if your 1991 has EGR and particle filters etc, if it's running well without black smoke why not just put it in for its emission test and see how it goes.

    Looks a bit smoke and mirrors to me.

    Martin
     
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    before wasting money on such treatments, take the van for a good drive. 1/2 hour at 50mph or above, keeping revs high. that cleans loads of soot and deposits out. i have got many older diesel engines through the mot emissions test that way
     
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    Good advice above

    AKA '' Italian tune up '' :)
     
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    My Roadster @ 24 yrs old although it has injection is classed as a 'dirty' engine (hence the taxation class like the national debt) so the day before the test I put an engine cleaner in the petrol tank and go for a 'spirited' drive. The examiner says it does the job as the immisions are correct, age related. (y)
     
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    Yep. A can of Forte diesel treatment followed by a good old fashioned Italian tune up works wonders on older engines
     
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    I was meant to do that : put some cleaning fluid into diesel tank, then fill up with diesel, and run it for a couple of hours.My best friend (male) used to have a garage, and said to me go somewhere hilly , not on flat roads, then get the 3rd gear in and rev a maximum, that will clean a lot. But thing is , I don't really have the time for that. I can only do it on a sunday (only day I wake up at 7.00 instead of 5.00) , LEAVE at 5.00 to be back in time for Sunday's duty at the stadium. I must have an hour ahead.... in case of a breakdown, which can happen any time really!
    This cleaning being 70 euros, without the hassle of getting up for an early drive , come back home diesel to spend + fluid. The little difference made me choose that hydrogen cleaning. It's only when I got the appointment that I though , mmmm send hydrogen in my old engine, is it really good.... hence my asking for advices. I hear what is simpliest to do... , I hear the expence, (not really a lot TBH... especially for France!), thanks to all. I run out of time. I will do it if no easier solution for MY motorhome . I'm still hoping someone will come along, having experienced it. I might ask to Max's usual mechanic, and have his opinion too.
     
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    It's got lots of black smoke but it's mainly when it hasn't move for a while or just been started without moving!And ...... it's stinks! Ask JJ , when he drives behind me..... that's what he says!
     
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    Please Steve... what is EGR ??? It's not easy in french ...let alone in English lol!
     
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    If we had high emissions on vehicles we put a can of injector cleaner into the fuel filter always worked
     
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    A customer of mine has an elderly(G reg) Hymer on a Mercedes chassis. He told me that he had recently had fitted a hydrogen unit, not being very technical but from what he said it injected hydrogen into the engine. He claimed better fuel consumption and more torque after a 3000 mile tip on the continent.
     
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    Surely, 1991 engines do not have an egr?
     
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    One word comes to mind, please forgive me, "merde".

    Just put some diesel treatment in your tank. Maybe €10.
     
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    Probably not but EGR has been in use since the early 70's.
    By 1973 it was vacuum controlled then Chrysler developed a cooling system operated valve only opening at running temperature.
    There's nothing new in this world, only old tech upgraded.
     
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