Intermitent starting problem

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  1. John Murray

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    We are having trouble starting our Damon Daybreak RV. Suddenly it is playing up and sometimes starts straight away and next time wont. We have checked battery connections - seem ok. Any suggestions!:cry:
     
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    What noises do you get at start-up, is it turning over?
     
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    By "Start" do you mean fails to "fire" Ie Run or fails to turn Ie engine does not even turn over:Sad:
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    It fails to turn engine and makes a clicking noise.
     
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    It fails to turn the engine and makes a clicking sound.
     
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    sounds like a bad connection, bad earth probably. clean the battery terminals grease with Vaseline, and refit. If the problem persists check connections to the starter motor.
    If by any chance you have tried to start with a flat battery the starter may have failed to disengage. Try putting the vehicle in gear and rocking back and forth ( sorry never noticed the size of vehicle) that may release it. let us know how you got on.
     
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    I would double check starter connections and also make sure the starter has a very good earth supply a new earth if not sure, you may have a starter solenoid fault developing
    just to rule out battery voltage problems next time it fails ,whilst still holding key in start position press the emergency start switch that links all batteries together and see if it then turns over
     
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    PS dont try rocking an an 8 ton Auto, it wont work:Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    Try starting it John.

    Hold it on start for say a minute.

    Now feel the battery connections.
    If one of 'em's warm, then dismantle. clean, grease, and assemble.

    If neither is warm.
    Feel the earth cable to chassis connection.
    If it's warm, dismantle, clean, grease, and assemble.

    If earth cable to chassis connections isn't warm.
    Dismantle, clean, grease, and assemble the starter cable to starter connection.

    If not of them is warm, dismantle, clean, grease, and assemble all four connections.

    If that doesn't work: -

    Sometime's, but rarely, the cable to terminal joint is faulty and sorting the reminal to post doesn't do the business.
    If the cable to terminal connection is faulty, get it re-crimped.

    Soldering terminals to cables is frowned on.
    Crimping is a legal requirement in many applications.

    However, it's Ok so solder a crimped connection if you wish to have a go.

    Good Luck.
     
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    Don't do any of the above unless you have clear sight of all wiring and connections
    Have a fire extinguisher handy:Doh:
     
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    Follow our trade members instructions (Geo) as he is a mec-an-iky person:Wink:
     
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    Good thinking Geo, thanks.

    Like the man said, 2 heads are better etc?
     
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    Looks like I've a lot to do - best get on with it. Thanks everyone, hope you have a relaxing bank holiday!!
     
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    non start

    is your rv on a workhorse chassis with a 6.5td chevy engine? if so you have a starter motor on it's way out, they are renowned for it. The starter motor takes a very large current to turn the motor over and eventually the contacts inside the solenoid burn away. The only permanent cure is to replace the starter motor.
    Dunc.
     
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    probably is starter but could be badly damaged teeth on flywheel . kook carefully when starter is removed , sonetimes about 2 inches of ring gear gets damaged. hopefully its not , but always look. may be just an end bearing on starter :thumb:
     
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    Sorry Geo I forgot you can't manage three wheatabix, try some cow pie instead, works for desperate dan, hee hee
     
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    The solenoid replaceable on it's own damondunc?

    Perhaps even dismantleable so that it can be repaired?
     
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    in theory yes, however if you speak to the chevy importers, they don't do the solenoid as a seperate item, it may be replacable by a specialist rotating electrics repairer.
    dunc.
     
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    If it's Yank, I prefer to straight to the States damondunc.

    Even after P&P and our import tax, I save money.
    The last part I imported cost me less in dollars (inc P&P) than the actual cost in £s, never mind P&P.
     
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    Correct.:thumb: To replace the chevy starter complete costs a bomb! However, there is a place in Stoke on Trent who stock chevy starter solenoids. I collected one from them for about £50 and replaced it myself in about 1/2 hour, + hour hour to refit the starter.:BigGrin:
    Can't remember the name of the place I went to and I'm certain I dont retain the paperwork but if I remember rightly, my mate who lives in that area knows of them so if you need thier name, give me a shout and I'll try and find out.:thumb:
     

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