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  1. trophychap

    trophychap Funster

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    "The Budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled,
    public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be
    tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be
    curtailed, lest Rome will become bankrupt. People must again learn to work
    instead of living on public assistance."

    Cicero, 55 BC

    So, evidently we've learned bugger all over the past 2,070 years!
     
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  2. davejen

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    "Assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed".....
    That I agree with, and spend the money here, there are enough people here who NEED it.
    Cheers, Dave(y)
     
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    If overseas "aid" was spent in the UK we would be one of the richest countries in Europe.
     
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  4. Frentchy

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    I think the UK already are! But how do you stop Europe getting their Manipulating hands on it!!
     
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    History......always repeating itself!
     
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  6. magicsurfbus

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    ..it has to - nobody listens.
     
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  7. GJH

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    If "People must again learn to work instead of living on public assistance." came to pass then the rest of it probably wouldn't matter :D
     
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  8. Judge Mental

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    what the british empire have robbed and stole from around the world.. We owe a darn site more then we are paying! Anyway selfishness is a really short sighted philosophy....We need these countries to climb out from a subsistence level and be able to buy our products. Its called enlightened self interest:coffee:
     
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  9. Tea Bag

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    Hi.
    You may be right about what the British Empire has stolen,robbed from around the world,but.. It was a time of dog eat dog,had we not had men of vision (Greed ?),it could be us now,that are clammering to get into the other Colonial powers,"Gardens of Eden"
    Poacher turned gamekeeper springs (Ended slavery/Piracy ?) to mind,and on that subject,there are still some...Poachers,that are members of our much lauded E.U. Fair play? Don't turn your back,even so,it is the Country of FIRST choice,among the people who are the "Not haves",people who will cross countless countries with high hopes of making a better life with their skills/hands and sadly,those who see GB as a sign that reads. Gullible B****eds.
    Tea Bag
     
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  10. Gorse Hill

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    If that is your logic JM then Germany should be skint by now
     
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  11. Gromett

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    Possibly :) ....when in fact the introduction of the euro has made them a super power economically(with problems!) Selling expensive product to those that cant afford it....and high on bankrupting them in the process

    I remember an obnoxious drunken german on a campsite in northern portugal pontificating that "we are the bankers of Europe!" Over and over again and that in pre euro days.. The irony being how right he was!:(
     
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    Thanks. I looked for such a reference but couldn't find one :)
     
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    Ah well, it was sent to me by a friend in good faith - and copied here in the same spirit!
     
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    I think we should pay more in over seas aid, it's better to pay them to stay and work in their own countries than have them try to enter the UK illegally. I know there is a problem with aid going missing in some countries but that is our governments fault for not keeping a more prudent eye on where the money goes.:unsure:
     
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    Sorry Sedge I wasn't having a pop:whistle::p. I was just surprised to see it again after such a long time.:eek:

    Whenever someone sends me something that sounds great, unbelievable, surprising etc etc I always always check before I pass it on.

    I get told off on facebook a bit for posting hoax busters, or other debunks of impressive or surprising posts. Why do I do it when it is harmless?

    The simple reason is that if people believe everything they read however harmless they are more likely to be taken in by something that is harmful in the future. If I can demonstrate that a very quick google can prove something to be wrong, more people will do these checks before passing things along and possibly prevent a harmful one from being passed on in the future.

    I am sorry I also had to laugh at your response here. The term "good faith" always makes me giggle :p Isn't that an oxymoron like "Military intelligence" or "Microsoft Works" :whistle::winky::roflmto:
     
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    I think we should use targeted aid. For instance we see that a particular region has a problem with x,y or z. We then find the UK company(s) best able to fix the problem. Then pay that company to do the job. This stops money being skimmed off by corrupt goverments, being sent to pet projects or just going missing. It also means UK companies can employ more people. And as a huge bonus it helps the people directly that the money is targeted. I also believe this would be cheaper and more efficient use of our money?

    There should be no legal target on how much should be spent. We should spend just enough to get the job done to help the least well off.
     
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    give it all to the oaps
     
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  19. markh

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    Never mind the British Empire, how about the Roman Empire? No one seems to chastise the Italians do they
     
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    I would have thought it was climbing out of the deep hole they put themselves in.....time after time.
     
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