In the News: New P&O Ferries at Dover

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  1. scotjimland

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    New 180 million Euro ship arrives at Dover

     
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    so will prices go up because the ship cost sooo much

    or down becasue its got more capacity and does more nautical mpg

    either way Ive booked with norfolkline just in case
     
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    I will leave it for 6 months for the bugs to be sorted before I use it.

    Doug...
     
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    I hope thier not rust bugs or they could be in trouble:BigGrin:
     
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    At that price, however cheap the boss thinks they are, I suppose they'll park the back end of Spirit of France in Dover, and the back end of Spirit of Britain in Calais.

    This way, both sides can express, physically, their opinion of the other, with the bows head on in the middle of the Channel. There'll be a flyover to allow vessels going up and down the Channel to go over the top.

    This flyover will form, if I can be forgive a French pun, a sleeve valve in the middle. They'll then charge us double for going along the two ships, and everyone else for going over the flyover.

    Quite clever, really - who owns P&O these days - Arabs, Chinks or Ruskies?
     
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    Funny that you should say that:... In 1968 I sailed on a maiden voyage of a container ship that was built in Holland. One of the things that had been done to save weight was to make the guard rails above deck level out of aluminium, within 6months the base of the rail where they were bolted to the decks where showing signs of corrosion.

    The rails had to be removed and heavy plastic beds had to be made and inserted between the aluminium pads and the steel deck.

    Doug...
     
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    I'm just sad that they weren't built in the UK. Our once proud shipbuilding industry has been turned into yuppie flats and museums :Sad:
     
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    I'm surprised it took as long as 6 months - they must have had quite a decent layer of paint between them.
    I wonder what they used to re-bolt the aluminium stanchions to the steel decks. Presumably neoprene sleeved stainless steel bolts Cost a fortune.
    Aluminium structures on steel hulled ships is always a nightmare, but there can be significant savings in tonnage and improvments in stability.


    John
     
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    It defies belief that the design engineer didn't take into account the electrolytic reaction between mild steel and aluminum .. it's basic first year engineering :Doh: :Doh:
     
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    It's not even that ! It's 6th form 0-level physics !! :Doh:
     
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    They don't do those exams we did nowadays. Nurses don't need O level Biology so why should Engineers need O level Physics?
     
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    Not when I was in school in the late 1980s...we were never taught anything like that :Sad:

    So I've learnt something today...and happy to admit it :thumb:
     
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    It was definitely part of my Physics lessons in the 60s
     
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    Can't answer that, but if anyone has a copy of the December C&CC magazine there's an article about these ships because they were given a sneak look last year in Finland.

    According to that article there's a dedicated deck for "tourist vehicles", to keep caravans and motorhomes away from freight traffic, and the vehicle lanes have been widened from 2.8 to 3.2 metres. Passenger and vehicle decks are supposed to be closer together to speed up returning to your car. Whether the same applies to the dedicated deck is not clear.
     
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    I was not on the ship after the modification, I left for leave, but I was told that the modification was 2 bolts to the deck and another 2 to the rail pads, I would have thought that changing to steel would have been a better option.

    Doug...
     
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    First MH on Spirit of Britain

    My partner Nic (ChampChump on here), works for P&O. They asked around to see if any staff had motorhomes and would be willing to participate in loading trials last Thursday.

    We had an interesting hour or so on board, with a couple of other MH’s and various staff trying their cars on the loading ramps. The car deck is at the top, with fixed ramps each side. The starboard side ramps are wider at 3.5m, but there is a turn at the bottom of the after ramp, which may preclude longer MHs. At 5.5m length it was ok for us. The other two MHs were slightly longer and didn’t have a problem, but the tow bar on one got quite close to the deck. I suspect that’s a problem with ramp transitions everywhere.

    Loading at Dover, you will turn right and go up the ramp on to the car deck. Discharging at Calais you leave via the curved ramp down to the main deck level.

    We’d liked to have had a look at the lounges and passenger spaces (as well as crew accommodation), but everyone was busy getting the ship ready.

    The trials went well as far as we could see. They were going to add some friction paint to the ramps to improve traction, but the three motorhomes present were all Ductao based machines and they managed ok.

    I think Nic has some pictures of the loading. I’ll post a couple I took on a fly-by earlier. At least you can see the forward and aft ramps.

    Happy Travels,
    Richard W.
     

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    It a side loader at the back?

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    Ramps as normal

    Hi Doug,

    You come up the (Dover Port Authority) ramp as normal and arrive on the back deck. Almost immediately turn right up the ramp that is built in to the ship to take you up on to the car deck. I suspect the car traffic will be streamed left up the narrower (3.1m wide) fixed ramp.

    I'm guessing that Tuggers, RV's, 5'ers, A Class and possibly some of the larger C Class will go straight ahead on to the upper cargo deck along with coaches etc. I think the lower cargo deck will be all freight.

    The pictures show her moored on the Eastern Arm of Dover Port, or 'on the wall' as they call it. It's expensive to keep a ship on one of the loading berths if she's not actually loading. When we did the loading trials she was on Berth 6.

    Happy Travels,
    Richard W.
     
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