Hymer Bench Seat Problem

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  1. Valkman

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    We recently bought a 2012 Hymer B544 and have a problem with the settee back which won’t stay put because the material used to grip the circular ‘velcro hook’ type fastening has insufficient integrity to prevent it being pulled apart.

    In this picture you can see the material clinging to the hook fastenings



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    This photo shows the damage in just 2 years!



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    In this photo you can see the amount of fabric that I’ve picked out of the circular fastening.



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    Has anyone had a similar problem and found a simple solution?
     
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    We have the same on our 09 Hymer, but only 'problem' is that the cushion tips forward when travelling

    On arrival, put back in place, all OK till we move again

    Or is yours a bigger issue?

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    Mine is nine years older than yours and uses the same fixings for the L-shaped settee back. There is some sign of 'pulling' on the cushion backs but nothing like the problem you have - the fabric's integrity has not been compromised. It might be worth talking to Hymer in Germany, or Travelworld in the UK to see if they can offer any advice regarding repair.

    p.s. I have just noticed you mention that the B544 is a recent purchase. I would go back to the dealer first.
     
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    Simply glue/sew proper Velcro fuzz onto the seat.
     
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    What Brian- hilldweller -says (y)
     
  6. Valkman

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    Bought from Travelworld who say Hymer don't want to know as the vehicle is more than 2yrs old. Thanks Hymer! Travelworld tried a solution which involved stapling Velcro to the wooden backboard and the other part through the seat back onto plwood baton, but this didn't work. Travelworld are looking for a solution but a round trip for me is about 230 miles. Not really cost effective. I'm looking into having 'fuzzy ' Velcro sewn onto the back currently. We haven't got a sewing machine so looking into costs of having it done professionally. One suggestion is to have a 50mm wide tape of 'fuzzy ' Velcro sewn across the back through the material into curtain header tape. This should definitely be strong enough. The purpose of the post was to gauge if this is a common problem and to seek a common cost effective solution
     
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    Your solution of a 50mm strip on the back of the cushion is the same as we have, no problems with movement or damage to the cushion.
     
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    When we had our Hymer -although the issue wasn't as bad as yours we also pulled the closed curtains over each end of the back cushion , but we also had the Hymer side cushions or other loose cushions against the rear cushion and didn't experience the cushion coming adrift whilst travelling. it would seem that the material backing on your cushion appears to be rather loose also.Maybe the velcro has to be positioned higher?
     
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    You don't say where you are in the UK. If near us I would stitch the velcro on for you.
     
  10. Valkman

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    That's a great offer Puddleduck and very much appreciated. I live in Norfolk so too far away (for most things :D) I know one or two local businesses that are capable though so I'll get in touch. shouldn't cost too much. (Born optimist :))
     
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    My 2002 B544 doesn't seem to be suffering with the same problem as yours, happily do a straight swap with you if interested? The vehicle that is, not just the cushion back! ;)

    We do have a little bit of the same 'plucking' that I keep an eye on. I had thought that if it got too bad I would probably get an upholsterer to replace that somewhat inadequate linen with something more substantial and sow in additional velcro.
     
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    I can't say how big the job is until actually looking at it. I've made / sewn some weird and wonderful things in my time :)

    Hope it works out well for you. I have seen simialr problems before and not just on motorhomes but also chairs and settees where velco has been used. Cheaper office chairs often use velcro to keep the seat cushions in place.
     
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    Our Hymer also 2012 (B654SL) doesn't have this problem but, where required, the seat backs hook into a plastic retainer. It may be worth having a word with the parts guys at Brownhills, we have never bought a van from them but, these guys know a lot about Hymers and have good contacts at Hymer.
     
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    Just as a guide Julie across the rd from me (does all my upholstery)only charges aprox £30 to sew a complete cushion -a little more on double sized ones - inc zips and backing / uses your own face material and done on a proper industrial machine that uses ind cotton so they don't fall apart ;):D--edit If you can take the cover off and mark where you want velcro stiching and send it to me I will get her to do it -You pay postage both ways -it would be good if you know if you need the hook side or the fuzzy side ;)
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    That might still be happy to talk to you but I thought Brownhills had lost the Hymer dealership?
     
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    It shouldn't be too big a job looking at your photos. It's as if the corresponding velcro hasn't been put in place. Do any of your other cushions have the same fixings and do they have velcro on both cushion and seat back?
     
  17. Valkman

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    Thanks Terry - very kind of you. Can I take a raincheck on that? - I'll see what I can arrange locally first. If successful, I'll post pics.
     
  18. Valkman

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    Hi Puddleduck - there all the same. It's not actually 'Velcro' the circular items are plastic and are designed to 'hook into' the backing material. The problem I think lies with the integrity of the backing material. I think the problem is exacerbated if the backing is slightly loose which probably accounts for the varying degrees of reported problems. There's still sufficient though to show that there is a problem with Hymer's method of fixing.
     
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    no prob
     
  20. Valkman

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    Any chance of a quick pic?
     
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