Huawei MiFi advice please ?

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  1. Charlie

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    t seems there are many of these Huawei MiFi devices.



    We have one that is about 3 years old now and of the more basic variety. Looking on Ebay there are many newer and perhaps larger ones out there and it leads me to thinking about an upgrade.



    Problem for me is I have no understanding of all the numbers they quote. There is this or that upload or download speed often given in different numbers or values. I cant fathom them out at all.



    In short can anyone tell me which would be the best one to get ? Would like one that works as fast as is possible.



    Thanks !
     
  2. Boringfrog

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    Only reason you would need to upgrade is if your MIFI is only 3G and you have a 4G sim card and signal. You having problems with it?
     
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    No none. I was just looking to upgrade to a unit if it gets better signal and works faster. Other than that the old one seems to be working just fine.

    This is the one we have just now
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HUAWEI-E5...391610?hash=item41a6726efa:g:gAkAAOSwUV9Wpq48

    I have seen this one.
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HUAWEI-E5...314397?hash=item2c9caf97dd:g:do8AAOSwjVVVharX

    Its just knowing if there is a gain between the two. Being dyslexic means Im really struggling with what all those numbers mean and if they mean a gain in getting signal in poor areas or if at all. Plus the speed at which they work ?

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    You'll only get a better signal by using a good external aerial. If your current MiFi has an aerial connection it is worth getting an aerial for it and then give it a try.

    I recently replaced my older MiFi with a new one so I could plug a 4g aerial into it. These aerials have two aerial connection leads and it seems much better than the old setup I had. 4g is a lot faster than 3g but I've found you don't get a 4g signal everywhere but it still works well on 3g. Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about the precise specification in terms of speed as the biggest factor is how good reception is and for that you need a good aerial.

    The bits I bought were:



     
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    Wow, £189 for a MIFI I'm shocked. I would stick with what you have. 4G is the fastest speed available. Some mifi units compatible with 4G this means it will work but at a slower speed.
     
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    Thanks ! That helps a lot !

    My old unit does not have an external ariel socket .. I know this cos I took it to the NEC show and asked the fella on a stand that supplies ariels.

    Is you ariel set up inside or outside the van ?

    If 4G is not availlable does the MiFi unit automatically go onto 3G ?

    It seems the way forward is to get a new device with an ariel socket and find the best ariel I can get. I dont mind spending a few quid on this as its all transferable stuff and I do like surfing the net while we are away.

    Cheers !
     
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    If you have a 4g phone and can tether on your contract try that. Mine works a treat.
     
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    I don't think that the model numbers themselves have any particular significance. They are just names, in effect.

    While there will be differences between different models as to the maximum speed they are capable of, it is the network that you connect to that has the biggest effect on download speed.

    The networks transmit at three different speeds - 2G, 3G & 4G, each one faster than the last (G standing for Generation). Not all speeds are available everywhere, because as each new generation comes along, the networks have to upgrade their equipment & they start in the most densely populated areas. When they install the new kit, they don't remove the old, so if your equipment isn't new enough to receive 4G, it can still receive 3G in the same area. There are still some areas where only 2G is available, unless you try to connect to the 3 network, because 3 never had any 2G kit.

    Almost all new kit that you buy now will have 4G capability, unless you are buying old stock being sold cheap on eBay or similar. You won't always be able to receive at 4G speeds, but where it isn't available, it will drop back to 3G.

    As you move from place to place, the actual speed will vary according to how far you are from the nearest mast, how many trees & buildings there are in the way & how many other people are trying to use the same mast.

    You can improve the performance of your mifi by connecting an external antenna. In the case of 4G, it actually requires two connections, because a 4G antenna is two in one. It will work fine without an external antenna connected, but in poor signal areas, or from inside a metal box panel van conversion, it will work better if you connect a proper external 4G antenna.

    So for maximum speed, look for twin external antenna connections & 4G capability. You can buy the mifi first & see how you get on & then add the antenna later if you find you need it - so long as you have a unit that will accept one.

    After that, the differences are just details - how are they charged, how portable is it, how many devices can you connect to it etc.

    Oh - and the price of a decent 4G mifi + antenna will always provoke a 'ow much?' response from our friends north of t' umber. :) :whistle:
     
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    Not always allowed on all networks.
     
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    Yes if 3G available, here in Spain I've been on 2G sometimes, never 4G.
     
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    Thanks for the information. Just ordered that combination.. (y)(y)(y)
     
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    I don't think you will be disappointed. There was no setting up to do with mine, just bunged the Three sim card in and it worked. The password number to log into its Wi-fi signal is visible on the little lcd screen.

    I been normally sticking my aerial on the driver's side window but sometimes when the signal is weak you have to wander around a bit so you can place it facing say to the rear of the vehicle.

    There is a free Huawei app you can download to a tablet and this can conveniently show you how strong the signal is and how much data you have used. It isn't essential though.
     
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    Two reasons to upgrade first 4G is becoming the norm in many European cities and outside. Second an external aerial is great, I put on mine in the sunroof with a suction pad and wired it into the cab USB Supply so I can use Google maps on the move and campercontact etc on my android radio system.
     
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    Was this post edited after "The bits I bought were:" No info showing on my screen although Charlie seems to have seen it?
     
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    No, but if you are using an ad blocker you may not be able to see them. It is the weird way Amazon links appear on the Forum now.

    Search on Amazon for a Netgear 6000450 MIMO antenna and the Huawei E5577 MiFi and you should find them. It's then just a question of looking round for the best supplier.
     
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    Charlie please tell me you have NOT just paid £189 for a mifi etc!!! That is extortionate!

    You should get the one from Carphone Warehouse that I mentioned before for £20 and cancel the contract then get an aerial to go with it, nothing like £189!!!!
     
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    No I bought the same set up as DBK posted above. Got the MiFi on a lightning sale on Amazon.. Well my son did.. Bought the ariel from Amazon as well .

    I went into Carphone warehouse today to just have a look at the devices but they had nowt in store. Not sure I want to be messing around setting up and cancelling contracts..

    Edited to remove a thoughtless comment. Apologies.
     
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    Charlie, I'm sure you don't meant to be offensive but there are no 'tricks being pulled' on Carphone Warehouse by me or anyone else! The deal is a one month contract, that contract is fulfilled by the payment of the first month's fee of £20 and then cancelling - if they didn't expect that to happen they wouldn't do them!

    If you want to pay over the odds for a MIFI that's your choice but please don't imply that those of us who don't and get them cheaper in a totally legitimate and above board way are doing something underhand!
     
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    Mel I was not implying anything... I think CPW assumes the user is going to continue with the contract or they surely would not be making offers like that.

    I was not being offensive in any way. But to clarify I can't be bothered setting up a contract just to cancel it straight away .

    Tricks was perhaps a bad choice of words and I unreservedly apologise for that.
     
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