Help - No Gas (1 Viewer)

[lunarman]

We are due to go away for the weekend so I thought I would fire up the van started no trouble.:thumb:

So I thought fire up the heating to warm up the habitation area :thumb: but to my horror no gas came through the pipesoh:

I am using calor lite bottles and the gas is gasing. So the problem must be elsewere. I thought maybe the regulator was frozen (is this possible?) so I warmed it with a hair dryer - no joy

Any ideas what to investigate next, I have the heating on electric to warm the van but obviously need the gas for cooking at the weekend.

Lunarman

 

[old-mo]

Maybe condensation in the pipe after the regulator,, or is it possible for gas to freeze after it has been through the regulator ??

Just guessing at the moment,, also if it is "Butane" as opposed to "Propane" might be freezing/frozen in the bottle.. :thumb:

 

[Sundowners]

Worth a try------------------turn EVERYTHING off--------open gas valve slowly------- the safety shut off might have decided not to play !!!
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[lunarman]

Ive had another go at it. I broke the output connection of the regulator and guess what - no gas!! Its one of the new secumotion type so it looks like a change of regulator is required.

 

[scotjimland]

Ive had another go at it. I broke the output connection of the regulator and guess what - no gas!! Its one of the new secumotion type so it looks like a change of regulator is required.

maybe silly suggestion .. but you do know about holding the button down on the regulator until the pressure builds up in the line?

 

[lunarman]

maybe silly suggestion .. but you do know about holding the button down on the regulator until the pressure builds up in the line?

Yes I am aware of that and it was my first thought. But no gas comes through the regulator when it is pressed.

Lunarman

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[DESCO]

maybe silly suggestion .. but you do know about holding the button down on the regulator until the pressure builds up in the line?

beat me to it Jim its the green button on regulator caught me out once, also green button on connection to bottle also.

Dave.:thumb::thumb:

 

[Douglas]

If your gas is Butane then its almost certain that the temperature is too low for the gas to boil so nothing comes out of the bottle.

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[scotjimland]

If your gas is Butane then its almost certain that the temperature is too low for the gas to boil so nothing comes out of the bottle.

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Correct Doug, but he has Calor lite .. which is propane

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[Douglas]

Correct Doug, but he has Calor lite .. which is propane

I did not know that! are you sure?

Doug...

 

[scotjimland]

I did not know that! are you sure?

Doug...

100% sure , I have a calor lite bottle , and it has the same connection as a standard propane bottle

 

[bobandjanie]

Ive had another go at it. I broke the output connection of the regulator and guess what - no gas!! Its one of the new secumotion type so it looks like a change of regulator is required.

Hi, we got a Secumotion in Germany in September, if started messing around when we go back home in October, so phoned them got put through to the Service and Technical department oh: and had a ding dong. They told me that I was trying to run to much Gas! I said so the heating has to be OFF to cook a meal then...............

Phoned them again last week, told them the Regulator was crap, they tried to put me through to the " Service and Technical department ". But I was having none of that ............ Been there done that, said I will try the " Warranty " department as its only a few weeks old. :Angry:

Sent it back recorded delivery, said I don't want another..........................Just waiting for them to say " its not covered under warranty " then the Fun begins.:thumb: Bob.

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[lunarman]

Right I've taken off the secumotion and it is completely blocked. I have a spare bulkhead mounted regulator that is not secumotion so great I thought I'll fit that.:thumb: But things are not that easy the the pipework on the van is 8mm and the Regulator I have has a 10mm fitting. oh:

So now I have to find a fitting and I bet they wont sell me one as I'm not gas safe registered. I'll have to let them fit it and pay a fortune for the privilege. :shout:

Lunarman

 

[bobandjanie]

Hi, is it not possible to unscrew the 8mm male fitting out of the Secumotion regulator and screw it into the one you have. Bob.

 

[lunarman]

Unfortunately the one I have has a different fixing and the secumotion wont fit

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[bobandjanie]

oh:

What you need is one of these:

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[lunarman]

No what I need is an 8mm one of these gaslow fittings

And I need it by Wednesday!

 

[bobandjanie]

Hi, Gaslow W20 with test point for 8mm Copper


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Bob.

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[lunarman]

Thanks Bob but I need to look closer to home to be sure of getting it in time. There are 2 gaslow dealers with 15 miles of me so I will checking them in the morning.

 

[bobandjanie]

Hi, we got a Secumotion in Germany in September, if started messing around when we go back home in October, so phoned them got put through to the Service and Technical department oh: and had a ding dong. They told me that I was trying to run to much Gas! I said so the heating has to be OFF to cook a meal then...............

Phoned them again last week, told them the Regulator was crap, they tried to put me through to the " Service and Technical department ". But I was having none of that ............ Been there done that, said I will try the " Warranty " department as its only a few weeks old. :Angry:

Sent it back recorded delivery, said I don't want another..........................Just waiting for them to say " its not covered under warranty " then the Fun begins.:thumb: Bob.

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Hi, got a letter back today, they are sending me a replacement free of charge, they sent pictures of oil based contamination in it, they say that it might be my rubber hoses............... But never asked if I was using autogas or what hoses I have. And the regulator I have put back on has been on for the last 2 years without any problems, so they are not admitting the Secumotion is crap, slight drop in pressure it cuts off, but are willing to replace it. oh: Bob.