Help Needed with Engine ID

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    Engine: Fiat Ducato 2.5 TD 1992 Type CRD93LS (U25/673)

    Decided that replacement of the cam belt was needed, as I was unsure of the engine service history. And so I contacted my local Fiat spares emporium. When I gave them the chassis number, they informed me that no belt was required, as this engine has a chain!! And so, does this make the engine an oldie worldie OHV (push rod), or is it a chain driven OHC?? Cant find any real answers on this, and so I have just ordered a workshop manual (handbook), to try and solve this mystery.
    I could of course just whip off the rocker cover, but thought to ask first.
    Dave.
     
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    could be either..Sofim engine is overhead cam...standard engine is overhead valve (pushrod)

    if it has a plastic shroud/cover down the l/h/s of the engine from camshaft to crankshaft its ohc and belt driven.

    no cover it will be chain driven pushrods

    i have an feeling yours, going on the engine type quoted, is OHC ...belt driven.
     
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    It does have the plastic covers as you say, but Fiat are adamant that its a chain!! Will whip it off in the morning and check. Someone else says that it could be OHV, with the plastic covers securing ancillary drive belts..........Whatever happened to an engine that was just an engine?? :Wink:
     
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    found this...its an Iveco engine.


    2500 TD Iveco 8140.27 2,500 cc SOHC 8v Direct injection 95 PS (70 kW; 94 hp) @ 3,800 rpm 216 N·m (159 lb·ft) @ 2,000 rpm
     
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    post a pick off the cam cuver
    i was thinking the same today worked on lodes over the wears but never one with shims so had a few problems but sorted now:thumb:
     
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    it may have plastic belt covers but theres no need to extend the cover to the camshaft if its a chain....theres nowt up there to cover.

    obviously the cam 'sprocket' is external to the camshaft housing with a belt, internal with a chain
     
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    your Fiat dealer aint worth sh t....

    its the same engine as the Peugeot J5...


    see HERE for a belt kit.....note the engine code in the listing title.
    you wouldnt want to buy that one though...bargain at £62....but with ££95 postage
     
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    When I enter the known details into the ebay add, it says 'non-compatible' The chain info came from Fiats main frame, and I checked with three seperate Fiat dealers, and all said 'chain'. Wont know now until I dig a bit
     
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    thats because that belt will have a Peugeot J5 part number cross reference so wont convert to a fiat engine and you cant complete the compatibility section as outside the UK the vehicle type is listed in a different way....thats why there is only one option in the checker.
     
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    confirm model make engine size from plate under bonnet:thumb:
     

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    I have checked on a Dutch site and they say it is a belt not a chain.

    OHC

    And that it is a Peugeot/Citroen engine type J5.

    Dont know if this helps

    Mel
     
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    have sent PM they will help you with every thing
     
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    Engine details there??????????

    Where?
     
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    I think this MH may have had an engine change. Can anyone ID this motor? It's supposed to be a 2.5 turbo, but I cant find the blower anywhere.
     

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    it is a sfofam ther is only three belts in that range of engine get in tuch with the company i PM you abut and they will Mach it up give them the no off the belt and count the teeth
     
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    Our Hymer was originally fitted with a 2ltr petrol engine, hence the confusion with the timing belt/chain thing. Still dont know which diesel engine is now fitted, but working on it! By the looks of things, it's a fairly new unit, put in recently. Had the cam belt done Thursday.:thumb:
     
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    from the pick it look like a sofam 2.5 td there should be on the head casting a year that should narrow it down a bit and try and get engine id off front off block that will tell you most of wat you nead to know :thumb:
     
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