Help Needed In Abergavenny Please.....

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  1. Gollom

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    Similar request as an earlier post, but this time in in Abergavenny. Heard of an S550 which is what I would prefer (love MB engines) Not advertised yet which is good news and whilst 170 miles is not too bad, it's still a fair trek to find it was a wasted journey especially for someone who does not know what to look for in the first place!

    Understand it has the Mercedes OM601 engine which I believe is as bulletproof as these things ever are. Is the good reputation well deserved? What are the things to watch for on that engine and also the S550 in general?

    Just asking for someone to take a look and tell me "yes, could be worth a drive" or "STAY AWAY"!! and if the seller seems reasonable. From our exchanges so far he seems sound (says selling due to worsening heath), but of course you never know!

    Having said that, if someone was knowledgeable enough to look a little deeper and give an opinion (which is just that - an opinion) that would be great also and a huge help!!!! (y)

    Beer tokens or Charity donations available ;)
     
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    If you could fill us in a little more it might help. How old is it? The Hymer 550 on the Merc chassis rolls quite a bit, the Fiat might be a better bet if you can locate one. Another thing to bear in mind is they are very thirsty, one or two others might not agree but I can only go off my own experience of owning one in the past. Check for patched over holes in the interior walls. The one I owned suffered with condensation around the drop down bed and it needed to be dropped when not in use or you would find a damp bed.
     
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    SEDITION...

    Off with his head!

    (One is "whoops, I am stuck on some wet grass 'cos front wheel drive is rubbish then... bugger I need a new cambelt. The other is a MERCEDES Hymer.)


    JJ :cool:
     
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  4. Gollom

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    Are they chain belts like my E-Class?
     
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    Just because the Merc is a rear wheel drive doesn't mean it won't get stuck on wet grass. If it is a twin wheel rear wheel drive then the chance of getting stuck is very unlikely but can happen. Yes Mercs have a chain driven cam shaft but so do some Fiats. My Fiat 3 Ltr is chain driven and is a dream to drive.
     
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    Just going back to the Hymer Merc 550 which is a short rear lounge (double bed only) there's more stability going on a ferry across the bay to Santander than driving in the Merc short wheelbase chassis.
     
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    Nit pick as much as you like...

    The truth is...

    Front wheeled driven motorhomes slip on wet grass (etc) much more than rear wheeled driven ones.

    I have a twin rear wheeled Hymer and, yes, I got stuck once... I drove through a one foot deep, mini lake of mud taking a stupid short cut at Praia da Rocha... I wouldn't have got stuck even then had I not eased up, so stuff wouldn't fall off my table!

    A FWD van wouldn't have even made it onto the field... never mind into the quagmire!

    :restmycase:

    JJ :cool:
     
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    JJ, I'm not Nit Picking I'm just highlighting the different aspects of the chassis configurations. You are not the only one who has owned a twin wheel Hymer Merc. Mine had the registration number NCB60 and one of its previous owners was the chairman of JCB Diggers. I have also owned a Hymer Merc 550 single rear wheel drive. From a road stability point of view, and it's only my view I think that the Fiat chassis is far more stable on the open road. What other owners think is up to them and I've no problem with it. As far as wet grass is concerned as I've previously mentioned, the twin wheel Merc will always have more traction than a front wheel drive but a single rear wheel drive will struggle. A lot depends on the weight distribution because many motorhomes have quite large rear garages and are loaded to the gunnels. A mention was made about how good a Merc engine is. The Bremen engine is the Rolls Royce of engines and is still powering many Mercs today but the 5 cylinder isn't in the same class and it's not uncommon for number 5 cylinder piston to collapse. I'm on my 2nd 3 ltr Fiat and the engine is a match if not far better than any Merc engine apart from the Bremen. Based on ownership experience if anyone out there is considering a replacement motorhome then a 3ltr is the way to go. Although the 2.3ltr is a robust engine it's totally different to the 3ltr.
     
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    First time I have heard of it...

    What does "uncommon" mean?

    Anyway...

    You stick to your Fiat for your reasons...

    I prefer RWD motorhomes because they are not so easily stuck on wet grass and ither, similar, surfaces.

    JJ :cool:
     
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    Hi @Gollom any more thoughts are you going to have a look at this one. There is a nice little camp site at Crickhowell but you can also overnight on the Car Park there.
     
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    JJ just make sure your engine cooling system's in good order. This is friendly advice, if you haven't changed the coolant for some time a good flush out and recharge will benefit it. Poor coolant circulation due to a clogged radiator is a recipe for a very expensive repair bill. A good reason for number 5 cylinder to overheat and collapse.
    Not to long ago I met an owner with a Merc 5cyl motorhome in Spain who had just got it back out of the garage after having to have a complete brand new engine fitted which had to be ordered and shipped from Germany. Number 5 cylinder piston had collapsed, the bill so he said, was an eye watering 14500 euros.
     
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    Thank you Mr Rolandrat for your wise advice.

    My radiator coolant is changed at least every year.

    My oil, oil filter and fuel filter are changed every 5,000 kilometres (not miles). This sometimes means three times a year (more often than I change my bedding!)

    I can (and do) keep an eye on my cooling system via the temperature gauge.

    Mr Geoff Carney, the foreman at Joesph Cockshoots' main garage at Bellevue, Manchester, taught me and the other apprentices well.

    JJ :cool:
     
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    Year is 1990 with 181KM on clock. He wants £10.5K which I feel is quite a lot too much (most people who say £10.K are looking for £10K) It has a new cab carpet and curtains, just been serviced with new glow plugs and will have 12M MOT. There also seem to be 2 big solar panels on the roof. From what he says it sounds like it has been his pride and joy which would explain in part the price. My (inexpert) opinion is £8K - £9K is more like it - what do people think is fair and reasonable?
     
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    Check how easy it is to make up all the beds and put them away again.

    Our over-cab bed was a b*gg*r to put back up.
     
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    Any views on the price?
     
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    Sounds a bit on the high side to me can you compare it with what Jeff & June were asking to give you a guide, buy if it's on excellent condition will fit ok were you want it could be worth it. @Puddleduck we find if you put then bed out with a movement of pulling towards you and up it's much easier than going straight up.




     
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    Need to see it, but it is priced at the high end.. to get that price it would need to be exceptional..

    £7.5 - £8.5k would be more realistic ..
     
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    I got £8K for mine. The one I sold had all the extras :)
     
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    There's a 1993 one on Ebay for same price - might be a bargaining point as 3 years younger. You would have to compare mileage and condition though.
     
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    Another one for you to consider .... Ikonic Kampers have a 1991 S550 advertised as just arrived.

    You might have to move quite fast if you find the right one as these old classic S class Hymers get snapped up by the hire firms .... we were pipped at the post on a really nice S660 last year.

    Now happy with our old Fiat model .... for now.
     
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