Help....more problems

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  1. margrae

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    Hi

    Started of with a buzzer step not working......................now

    disconnected buzzer switch........12v system not working, hook up 240v not working
    checked van fuses...........melted blade fuse for heater cab blower
    checked heater under dash...........housing has a hole.....melted !!

    All on a b564 hymer 2002
     
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    Oh dear. I've got no idea Margrea , but I'll reply to get you back on the front page.
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    seems there has been a serious electrical short in the cab area. it need proper checking out, you dont want any fires...

    sorry dont mean to scare . but get it looked at by an electrician.
     
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    OMG........other prob is exhaust fell off so am awaiting replacement, live in the scottish borders in the sticks so not easy to find an auto electrician.
     
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    If you have any campsites near you you could ask them---sometimes mobile caravan/motorhome engineers etc leave their cards at campsites or advertise on their boards.
     
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    Have now checked large fuses in engine bay beside starter motor all was ok but now the 12v system is working. Don't know if taking them out and putting them back has rest the elektroblok. Took the resister out of the heater blower and it doesn't look burnt...will need to try and take the blower out and see if it is seized or something. awaiting delivery of replacement exhaust, which will have to be adapted but a friend of mine can do that.
     
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    Here are some pics of heater blower 4.jpg 3.jpg 1.jpg 2.jpg
     

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    Hi
    Now looking for replacement housing for the heater/blower have tried a few scrappies but no luck so far,any ideas ?
     
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    What was the problem in the end, was it the fan motor ? What chassis/engine is your van based on ?
     
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    unlikley any breaker will sell the casing seperate you would have to buy the heater complete
     
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    Have you tried simply typing into google the parts you want, usually Breakers Yard.com will pick it up and then scrap yards from all over the UK know and any that have the relevant part get in touch, we have used this for the cars and motorhome and it is very successful . Good luck with your search.

     
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    Have only taken the resister out at the moment, don't know if I can get to the fan its self without removing some of the dash. The resister doesn't look damaged but it was the housing beside the resister that melted. I might just have to try and repair hole myself.......re-melt it !!! The chassis nos is based on the Ducato 230 I think.
    I am in the process of getting an exhaust done here at home so cannot take the van to a garage but saying that the garage I contacted and the auto electrician I spoke to didn't fill me with confidence.
     
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    That housing is a pig to replace.... been there, done that.
    Looks like the blower motor may have a seized bearing causing binding, causing the resistor to overheat. I actually have a housing in the store, but it's here in Ireland. Could work something out if you're completely stuck.
     
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    Hi Jonkil
    I have climate control and the button for this had no cover on it and sometimes it was difficult to tell if it was on or off........don't know if that could be a factor. I only used the motor home last year for a few days in the autumn and never noticed anything wrong .
    If you could help that would be great.....I am fed up searching. You could pm me regarding cost.
     
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    Hi Margrea,

    Both myself, and a friend, (another Hymer/Fiat owner) have had the same problem, and in both cases, it seemed to manifest itself when the Air Con was being used. With ours, I found that the resistor for the twin engine cooling fans appeared to be the culprit, (charred looking due to overheating) and despite if being a Fiat 230 model, I had to go to Peugeot for the replacement Boxer/Citroen/Fiat (Eurovan) part. It fits into the back of the radiator, and controls the twin cooling fans, which also operate, as soon as you turn on the air con, regardless of engine temperature.

    Because of the melted terminal for fuse No13, and with Suggy's advice (electrician) at Saltfleet, I bought a 30A Maxi fuse and holder, and at the next meet, we managed to bypass terminal No13, and everything works as it should now, with engine fans, air con, and heater blower fan all working together.
    As an aside, our erratic fuel gauge is also behaving itself now. ;)

    My friend had to replace his fuse box, but I am not sure "exactly" what caused his initial problem. I personally don't think that the little 30A blade fuse, or possibly the fuse holder terminals, are man enough for the job of carrying the current for the power hungry items operated through them.

    Good luck with spares and repairs,

    Jock. :)
     
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    Thanks Jock for the extra info.......need to look at that. I have replaced the climate control button that had the cover missing...got it from Italy at a cost of 25 euros and 20 euros p/p (last one they said and not made anymore)
     
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    I found this.......I don't think it affects mine as mine is a November 2002 but others may be affected.

    Reference : R/2003/027
    Manufacturer Ref : 4517
    Make: FIAT
    Model : DUCATO
    Launch Date : 05/02/2003
    Numbers Involved : 1634
    Build Start Date : 01/05/2001
    Build End Date : 30/04/2002
    Recall Details
    Concern : INTERIOR FAN WIRING MAY CHAFE ON DASHBOARD SUPPORT
    Description : The interior fan wiring may chafe on a dashboard support. This could result in a short circuit and a fire in the fan unit.
    Remedial Action : Fit additional insulation and protection to the fan electrical wiring.
    Vehicle Id : ZFA2301200006133293 to ZFA2301200006227258 Other Vehicles Affected (Click the vehicle to perform an extended search)
     
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    Just found out my vehicle production date is the 11/2001......which is in the time frame of the recall vehicles, what do I do ?
     
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    Chase it up with Fiat, using the info you already have available. (y)

    Good luck.

    Jock.
     
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    I have found out that my vehicle was manufactored in nov 2001 a year before it was registered.
    Called Fiat .........confirmed my motorhome had a recall that has not been sorted, she said to call nearest fiat dealership which I did. The dealership could not even find my vehicle reg or vin number on their database. I told her that fiat (professional) found it straight away after giving vin nos. She said she would speak with her manager and call back which she did and then said the manager had said the cut of for ordering parts was 2004 ( recall 2003) and that it was now no longer an active recall ? She also said that they always check for recalls when a vehicle comes in for service........I told her motorhomes often go to dealer it was purchased from and not a fiat franchise.
    I had already purchased some replacements parts from a breaker I contacted last night so will probably just get it fixed 'some time', but I just have the feeling the fault was caused by some short circuit ie the recall fault.
     
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