Habitation / MH service technician, what qualifications are required ? ?

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  1. scotjimland

    scotjimland Funster Life Member

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    Not sure if that is the correct name for the trades person who does the service and checks.. anyhow

    my question to all in the know ...

    What qualifications and or training does a MH / Caravan habitation tester require ?

    I imagine he / she would require at the very least an electrical and a mobile LPG qualification.

    What certificates should you ask to see before employing someone to do your tests ?

    .. or can just anyone set themselves up with some basic DIY knowledge, a white van, box of tools and hit the road ?
     
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    Hi ScotJimland

    Geo should be able to tell you.
     
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    At a guess Jim I would say "nothing" in fact I would guess that most of them have not even served a recognized apprenticeship of any kind, but that's the way it is going in many "Trades" these days.

    Gone are the day's when an apprenticeship lasted 5 years and you had to go to technical college once a week for most of the 5 years.

    Doug...
     
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    scotjimland Funster Life Member

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    Indeed Doug .. but surely if they are going to issue LPG and Electrical test certificates they must have SOME qualification/training to do so ... ?

    my worry is that some may be doing as you say , hence my question about what certificates should you ask to see before employing ...
     
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    well I can see an electrical test cert and a gas safe cert should be held, but what cert for damp and general motorhome bits and bobs, I think there is an instiute of acredited caravan repairers. chances are a firm will have seperate people doing different jobs, but a one man band could be a different story.
    A qualification can be obtained
    http://www.cito.org.uk/attachments/article/70/C&G%20Application%20Pack%20-%20WB.pdf
     
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    I bet there is now formal training for this certificate and every one passes providing they have attended!!!

    Doug...
     
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    not wishing to belittle anyone with such a qualification as they may well have other practical training. However become a fully qualified acredited engineer in just 5 days, 5 days not five years. Wow that is really hopeful.
     
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    scotjimland Funster Life Member

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    thanks for the link Dave ..

    having just read the course syllabus ,

    you can learn all this in 5 Days ?

    Health and Safety
    European Standards
    Liability Insurance Requirements
    Advertising/Marketing
    Setting Up Your Business
    Customer Care and Relations
    Pricing Structure
    Stationery/Book Keeping Requirements
    Vehicle Choice Recommendations
    Tools Required
    Parts Stock Required
    Materials/Consumables Required
    Sourcing of Supplies of Spares/Components etc.
    Service Schedule - Full/Short/Safety/Check
    Chassis/Brakes Problems
    Floor Delamination Detection/Rectification
    Use of Damp Meter and Detect Water Ingress
    Cures for Water Ingress and Treatment
    Fridge Problems and Rectification
    Tap/Pump Problems and Rectification
    Toilet Flush Systems, Fault Finding and Rectification
    Window Replacement
    Door Lock/Hinge Problems and Rectification
    Space Heater/Fan Master Problems and Rectification
    Skylight Replacement or Repair
    Wheels/Tyres Regulations & Checks
    Road Lighting/Awning Lights
    Gas Problems and Tests
    Heating Systems, Gas/Electric Faults
    Hot Water Systems, Gas/Electric Faults
    12v Electrical Faults and Rectification
    240v Electrical Faults and Rectification
    Blind and Fly Screen Adjustments


    It took me FIVE years to qualify as a maintenance electrician
     
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    beat me to it Roger ...
     
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    They have very short tea breaks.
     
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    All my lot have 'tickets' and attend refresher training courses from time to time at enormous expense:cry::cry::cry:

    Peter
     
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    I'm a trained MCEA engineer, the five days is misleading as I have gone on to do training with people like Thetford, Truma, BPW etc.. The MCEA continues to support and train engineers well past the five days. You should consider the five days as an introduction and if your serious you will go on and do more specialised training.

    In terms of gas certification then nothing is mandatory but the recommended qualification is ACOPS Gas certification which is designed for the touring vehicle industry.

    You should ask to see public liability insurance too. Its shows the engineer is serious and gives you some peace of mind.

    I hope this helps.
     
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    scotjimland Funster Life Member

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    Thanks for your informative post .. however , the above statement is a worry ..

    also,
    who checks the 230v electrics ? This can only be done by a competent electrician.

    IMO these two checks, are the most critical, a poor damp inspection won't kill any one...
     
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    My eldest boy Simon does,he will have a stand at Newark this year and offers a full electrica safety inspection test, full report with certificate if all is well, he is, I belive doing some inspections at newark too
    Im hopefully doing the acops course soon, and can then offer full in house base vehicle service and repair, as well as the all important safety issues of the habbitation side
    Geo
     
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    Hi Jim

    We at our college are approved to run the ACoPs training and assessments for the caravan and motorhome industry. The ACoP qualification is for the dealers who do not hire out the motorhomes. However, you do get the likes of Lowdham Leisure who sell and hire out so Lowdham have so many certificated to ACS standard and they then have to be Gase Safe registered. Then they also have the rest qualified to ACoP certification.

    Anyone can take the ACoP training and we like other centres offer 5 days with assessments in each element. Engineers then have to recertificate after 5 years but can do the re-assessment which takes 3 days only.

    I would advise anyone to take the ACoP - ok you have to sit through the Health & Safety, CoSHH, Regulations etc, all the mundane stuff but you do get on to the LPG and appliance stuff in time.

    It makes me quake in my boots when I read some of the threads about what some funsters are doing with their appliances. :Doh::cry:

    As for the electrical side, then maybe my son who is also registered on this site may be able to tell you more. He is a certified Electrician who is qualified to do Inspections and offer certificates. If you have any urgent queries pm him SIMANJO is his forum name. He will be at the Newark show as well, he will be having a trade stand and will no doubt be joining us for the usual evening get together as well in the Fun camp.

    Pammy
     
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    You just pipped me at the post - lagging behind as usual :Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    you need to speak to NCA, there engineers are trained by cito and are workshop approved,they are gas and electrically trained and certified and approved by the national caravan council, i myself took the periodic inspection report qualification and i am able to carry out this electrical test and produce a bona fide certificate

    http://www.nca.ltd.uk/index.php
     
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    Well I have changes my pants now, I could not get to the toilet quick enough, I p****d my self with laughter at reading at all the qualifications and training that goes into a caravan engineer, Oh! s**t, I've wet my self again!!!

    Doug...
     
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    Really??? You're an engineer in various subjects?? how much closed book examination did you do then and have to get 100% to pass or fail.

    These guys have to jump through hoops to earn their living - they're the ones that put their clients' lifes at risk every time they do a job. and I suppose you wouldn't condemn the man who fails to do his job correctly and causes a fatality - no you'd probably just wet yourself laughing again :Sad:
     
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