green energy cold calling

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  1. campa cola

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    'hello sir, I have some hugely overpriced and cheaply made solar panels and wind turbines I want you to buy at great initial cost to yourself on the promise you will pay for them in 4-15 years time (depending on my lie factor, and yes I am a God and can control the wind and sunlight)

    .....unfortunately parts and service will only be available for the next 1-5 years (if you are lucky). In 5-15 years our company will be long gone to the wall and you will have the choice of replacing many of the parts (at so much great expense and if you can get them from China) that you may have to scap the whole lot...'


    As two of my neighbours have done recently....:Eeek:

    One farmer spent over £100 K and has said he is scrapping his turbine as there is no support whatsoever for parts replacement, the other was told 'we cant tell you how much its going to cost to repair until the parts are shipped over from China, but it will be more than you paid for it......"

    Nice:thumb:
     
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    I have generated 95% of the electricity I have used in my life for over the last 25 years myself.

    The vast majority of this from solar panels.

    I am starting to suspect that sustained attacks on the various alternative sources of energy citing differing reasons displayed in a few posts on here might have something to do with connections to the oil industry. :Wink:


    JJ :Cool:
     
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    ha ha - no connection with the oil industry apart from using diesel, petrol and oil based products....what motivates me into a febrile state is windfarm developers coming into local rural communities and ripping them apart with lies and half truths offering the lucky few shedloads of money because they have land in the right place at the right time. But threatening the rest of the community with giant industrial turnines towering above their houses. These shysters never go away either....

    Then I get idiots ringing me (against the telephone preference scheme regs) trying to sell me this crap......for my house which I am due to take a loss on due to windfarm planning developments:Eeek:
     
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    They are a blight just like mobile phone masts.

    I joined one residents group who gave Vodafone a right kicking about 5 years ago.:thumb:
     
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    Oh dear.

    Did people put up some turbines and spoil the view?

    You should see the wacking great motorway they stuck by our house a few years ago. The value of the house rocketed up because folks in the village could get to the office in the Smoke more quickly.

    Now of course it is often gridlocked!

    Progress hey?

    JJ :Cool:


     
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    I think that wind turbines are very majestic and are doing a wonderful job in reducing our use of carbon fuels.

    Their manufacture brings employment, their installation brings employment, their maintanance brings employment.

    Can't see a downside to them:thumb::thumb:
     
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    ha ha thanks for the laugh :Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:

    'The megawatts supplied by our 3,500 turbines is derisory: no more than the output of a single, medium-sized conventional power station' and thats if they are actually working....which for much of this summer they have not been.....no wind.

    http://nomoreliesblog.wordpress.com/

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...industry-greatest-scam-age.html#ixzz2exdY5bvy


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-wind-turbines--insane-true-eco-scandals.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...industry-greatest-scam-age.html#ixzz29TYO5OzD
     
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  8. matamoros

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    The whole green energy industry in this country is only viable because of government subsidies to mainly large companies like Peel holdings who seem to be on a mission to take over Lancashire. Solar panels and wind farms are hugely inefficient and only useful for small scale use.

    Obviously some form of renewable energy will be needed, the money wasted in subsidies to comply with a silly agreement that half the world didn't sign up to anyway would be better used in research into better forms of renewable energy production.

    I have no connection with the oil business apart from buying the stuff but our money is being wasted and put into the pockets of big business....we are being conned into believing that this helps to alleviate global warming.......does this exist.

    I saw an article from the BBC predicting that the polar ice cap would have disappeared by Summer 2013. Recent satellite images show the ice cap is at its largest for many years.
     
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    They have their rightful place in this countries production of electricty,

    I agree they could not and would not produce all of our generation requirements, we need a balanced programme of Nuclear, Gas, Coal, Bio, Wind and Solar to ensure we have enough production capacity for the forthcoming year.

    Unfortunatly under this and previous governments no balanced programme has been produced or designed.

    The way we are going we will be in the dark by about 2020 as nobody is planning far enough ahead.

    I still think they are majestic and you can see them both in Spain and Portugal when flying back from the canaries. These 2 countries hav many more wind turbines than we do.
     
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    The fact that the price if solar panels seems to be linked to the FIT (feed in tarrif) seems somewhat corrupt to me.

    When the FIT was higher the cost was over £8k for an installation. The government reduces the FIT and suddenly the suppliers can sell them at nearly half the price!
     
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    I noticed that from the air last time I came back from Lanzarote:thumb:
     
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    Do we all look at old windmills and complain that they are an eyesore on the landscape?





    Hmmmm.......thought not.
     
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    it really would be pleasing if windfarms ( and there are close to 40 turbines that can be seen from our village, some with the wingspan of a jumbo jet ) and solar panels really could produce the goods.

    sadly...... :Doh: that is far from the facts.

    and while i feel i [HI]should be[/HI] quite sympathetic towards " green energy " it will never provide effective or sufficient support for the countries needs.

    sad but a fact.:Sad:
     
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    you might if they were the size of jumbo jets and your village was surrounded by 40 plus of them :Eeek:
     
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    Thats partly my point, the manufacturing costs vs the retail costs are opaque. it seems quite clear by your calculations 4K was profit......or they swapped to much cheaper parts ?
     
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    Kind of hard to get dewey eyed over this mess...

    14,000 Abandoned Wind Turbines Litter the United States-guess what the subsidies stopped......

    [​IMG]
     
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    If we could harness all the "hot air" that comes out of politicians and "green energy pushers" mouths, then maybe this could be used as another form of energy:Laughing:

    We got sick of phone calls from these companies telling us that we could save money on our energy bills and save the planet in the process:RollEyes:

    We heard stories about solar panels being fitted wrongly to roofs that are now sagging under the weight. Who repairs the turbines when they fail, nobody, they are being left to rust in our countryside because they are so costly to repair.

    It's quite obvious by looking at recent electricity bills and how they are made up, about 60% of our bill was not related to consumption. We use low energy bulbs and had a white meter installed for a kiln years ago, so of course we used less energy/units as a result. So what does Scottish Power do? They increase the cost of the tariffs etc. You just can't win:Angry:

    I am sure some will disagree.......but we're all being conned rotten in this country:Angry:

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    Beautiful old windmills are a thing of beauty and are in decline, we are hardly comparing "like for like" with turbines..........:RollEyes:

    Anyone living in a beautiful landscape doesn't want their view spoiled by monstrous turbines. Many people have seen the value of their homes ruined by these things.

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    The downside with the wind farm off the coast of Skegness is that it was built and run by Norwegians and is maintain by Norwegians who are flown in weekly, so no work for the locals :cry:
     
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    How can anyone seriously think that wind turbines are majestic. They are a blot on our wonderful countryside. We recently spent a week in Northumberland and every day drove past a huge monstrosity of over 30 wind turbines and in the entire week we did not see a single turbine moving!
     
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