Google is spying on you..

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  1. scotjimland

    scotjimland Funster Life Member

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    That and more I've noticed lately - every (*&(*&^^ is spying on us.

    ebay - next time I enter there are a list of suggestions of what I might want to buy.

    Amazon - even get emails tempting me - "You looked at". ebay emails me too.

    Even here I've noticed ads that tie in with things I've looked at recently.

    YouTube has the option to turn on "suggestions". And if a video has music the thing tries to sell it to you.

    And the only thing that might save us I guess is those nice people in Brussels.
     
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    Google Earth

    How many member have had their Van shown on Google Earth several times, you can't move and they have you.
    As one would expect my M/H is parked outside my home and its shown on Google. I brought up my sons house 80 miles away on Google and low and behold there it was again.
    The van has only been to my sons on 3 occasions and only for one or two days each time. So any ideas of a 'bit on the side' in the van is definitely out of the window now. The evidence is there--- In Colour-- for all to see. So be warned!
    Ron
     
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    If one has an account with anyone there should be the ability to opt into or out of data storage in line with the Data Protection Act.

    If one doesn't have an account though there should be no such storage - which begs the question "Is it wise to have a Google account?" :Smile: Does having a Google account actually provide anything of value (serious question)?

    Graham
     
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    I have a gmail address, picks up more Spam than anything else, apart from the usual viagra type crud it oftens sends me ads for items I've been googling.

    difficult to avoid big brother these days
     
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    Quite correct Graham, you can delete and opt out of data gathering .. which includes all your searches, viewed pages, email sent and received, chat messages etc etc

    Whether it's wise to have an account is debatable, .. Google maps are a great resource which I use extensively and Gmail is IMO one of the best email services available.

    The point Brian made, that no matter what service or provider you use or log onto, data is gathered.. and mostly without our knowledge , at least Google have been honest and provided a mechanism to remove it.. and stop it being gathered.

    I was quite amazed when I saw the data Google had on me in storage ..

    jim
     
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    I'm sure you're right, Jim, about many people not knowing what data is stored about them. So many people just tick (or fail to untick) boxes without appreciating what they are doing. Most people haven't a clue about data security. Only yesterday I went to get some cash from an ATM and the litter bin next to it was overflowing with receipts that people had discarded. When I used to run data protection training courses I got used to seeing widened eyes and dropped jaws when I mentioned even the simplest of security checks :Smile:

    I say "without appreciating" rather than "without our knowledge" deliberately though. Always assuming that the organisation concerned is (like Google) operating legally then by ticking/unticking boxes we have actually acknowledged that we know what they are going to do with our information. Over the years several changes have been made in the requirements for wording which accompanies those boxes and (again for organisations operating legally) it is now much clearer. It is up to us to make sure we know what we are doing.

    On the general item of wisdom of having an account I think you've made a good point. If the services provided are of value to you and you appreciate the full implications then the account is worth having. If, on the other hand, people open account after account without thinking and leave them dormant then they should not be surprised if they have actually allowed more data gathering than they realise.

    Graham
     
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    the problem with ticking boxes is that they are often phrased with a sort of double negative, presumably designed to catch people out - I dimly remember that these boxes started on a tick if you don't want .. so everybody automatically ticked - so they changed to a default tick that you had to untick, on several occasions where there are two or more boxes the are contradictory -

    . . . . . . too early, I'm confused just thinking about it :Doh:
     
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    It's pretty horrifying, innit.

    There's no way we are going to beat "them", there are just too many ways the spies can sneak onto the system and it's so hard and time consuming to keep scanning the output of task manager. How many even know if task manager.

    We are doomed. Doomed I tell yea.

    Pissing me off this week is "UPDATE TO AVG VERSION 9"
     
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    Jim - am I reading it correctly that you have to download the toolbar to enable this?

    :Smile:
    Keith

    To add the pages you visit to your web history, you'll need to install the Google Toolbar.

    Web History: All the web sites you visit, at your fingertips.

    • View your web activity.
    • Search the full text of pages you've visited.
    • Get personalized search results and more.
    Google Toolbar: Take the power of Google with you anywhere on the web.

    • Search smarter with instant suggestions.
    • Access your bookmarks from any computer.
    • Add custom buttons to search your favorite sites.
    You should know: To include the web pages you visit in your web history, you need to install Toolbar with PageRank enabled. PageRank will send information about these pages to Google and associate it with your Google Account. See our Web History and Toolbar Privacy Policies. Learn more.
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    It's not as bad as it once was but it all hinges on whether the DPA requires that consent be explicit or not.

    Still suffering from Top Deck syndrome are we? :Laughing:

    Graham
     
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    Dead easy that one. We've updated 5 machines with AVG 9 this week. It certainly appears to be more efficient than 8.5 so far :Smile:

    Graham
     
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    I do quite a bit of online shopping so it doesn't bother me that Google, Amazon etc. track my search patterns. Google makes its money from advertising, so one of the reasons for the background 'stealth' is to be able to serve you up with the most relevant information, (& ads), when you next search. Same with Amazon. It tracks your shopping patterns and then 'suggests' other similar products. Personally, I find this very useful at times and have even bought goods that have been automatically 'suggested'. I don't see it as Big Brother interfering, but rather a clever way of technology being used in a positive way for the end user.
     
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    Thank you Sir, I was waiting for someone to be a guinea pig after the pain of V8.0
     
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    Likewise.
    Whats all the fuss about? People are 'tracked' or 'watched' 24/7 through a variety of means, apart from the internet. Not just in your own home where privacy is something in the past, but even more so outside the home.

    Britain is obsessed with spying.
     
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    :Rofl1: Hi I Googled what to do with our lottery win :Rofl1:
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