Getting a 'Tingle' from the Van, Advice please

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  1. emmitdb

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    Hi All,

    I'd forgotten all about this but with thinking about the coming season, this problem leapt to the front of the queue.

    It concerns a slight shock we receive from the body of the 'van when plugged into EHU but only when we are abroad. We don't get it when in the UK.

    I made the assumption that it is caused by
    a. No earth in the connection (common over there)
    b. Reversed polarity.

    That is as far as I've got.

    In order to mitigate it when I was on the Continent, I habitually dropped one of the rear steadies that are fitted to the Hobby and additionally gave the 'connection' thus made a watering can of water applied to the leg.
    However, I know there is a problem and I don't want to upset the local law officers by dropping the legs whilst 'wilding'

    From my very poorly phrased circs. above, can any of you give me suggestions as what my problem is caused by. and how I can cure this.

    Thank you in advance to all contributors
     
  2. Serendipitous

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    Situation is dangerous. Suggest getting the van checked by a compentant person and the invest in a polarity checker for general use.
     
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    I would say nothing more than static electricity if dropping a steady stops it..
    I used to be prone to it a few years ago.....cars, supermarket freezers, escalators etc.
    I think after getting a few proper shocks while doing my job I became immune.

    If it was an earth fault the RCD breaker in your van would trip.
    REVERSED polarity is immaterial and harmless unless you are working on live equipment.
    Try hanging a plain metal chain from a metal part of the van and laid on the ground, that should discharge any static.
    It will do the same as dropping a corner steady but wont upset the Gestapo.
     
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    I have had a couple of cars that actually made a crack and at night I could see a spark, all down to static from the car's fabrics. I realised that as I got out then shut the door, CRACK, I found that by holding the door firmly when getting out gave a steady discharge and this would eliminate any shocks. Seems that getting out then touching, used me as a sudden conductor to ground. Works for me and others that I've advised.
    Used to be worse and painful on hot humid days!
     
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    Dont wear nylon shirts and trousers....makes it much worse. :LOL:
     
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    I used to get a spark as I reached for the door handle regardless of which car I was driving.

    It stopped when I stopped wearing crepe soled desert boots and we stopped laying cheap carpet tiles in the car showroom.
     
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    But the OP isn't talking about static, static is a discharge to earth, instant and over quickly, a tingle is completely different but can still be cured by earthing the MoHo.
    As said, get it checked out by a qualified electrician who should test it with a meter that will also test the RCD reaction time. Tell him exactly what happens, where it happens and how you stop it happening. (y)
     
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    If you notice in Roberts video they are talking about 120volts, we use 230volts that in actual cases is up to 247volts in some areas.
     
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    Thanks for your post Serendipitous,

    Already got a Polarity checker. We will see what we can do about the 'shocking' state of affairs.:groan: (Sorry, Couldn't resist it).
     
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    Thanks Badknee,
    Fortunately my friendly neigbourhood garage has a bloke on tap who fixes all things Lekky. I'll arrange for him to have a look at the 'van when it gets serviced in the next couple of weeks.

    Question. This doesn't happen 'Over here' but it happens 'Over there' Any idea why?
     
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    Obviously no pun in 10 did ( old ones are still ok).

    Could be static but no confirmation the tingle is not repeated immediately after discharge would have occurred. sugest getting it checked for safety sake. Easy to be wise after the event. Also worth checking the RCD is working ok.
     
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    It is unlikely to be static coming from the van to you, more likely static travelling from you to the van. As pappajon says avoid clothing likely to produce static.
     
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    "avoid clothing likely to produce static."

    Does that mean I've got to buy running shoes and a flying helmet":groan:
     
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    Quick check - if it's static it will happen whether on EHU or not.
     
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    I used to get it a lot when the wife came to bed in a skimpy negligee......But these days, as much as I wind, my steady still drops.......:cry::cry:
     
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    some one had to bring it up T
     
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    It raised a laugh.........if nothing else.
     
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    If it only happens when abroad, it could be down to the drier weather ?
     
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    You need an expert on it since you need to ask the question. But at least buy a simple neon mains tester, hook up and standing outside touch it to bare metal on the van, if it glows you are close to killing yourself.

    Even with no earth in the hook up, that neon should not light up.
     
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