German Motorhomes (1 Viewer)

[Heyupluv]

I will buy what ever I want from what ever manufacturer as long as it suits my needs.
I am really impressed by our swift, if it falls apart then so be it, but it is a great van as far as Im concerned. :thumb:
when it comes to changing it I will buy what ever I fancy at that time. I will choose on Layout, and it suiting my needs. It will fall in to 3 categories, Budget van, Middle of the road and or Mark of distinction. I actually do not think Hymer fit in to the 3rd category any more. I think that's more Concorde, Cathargo territory.

But most of all, I will buy the best van i can afford with the money i have available which ever country it comes from.

You are right haggers the Hymer have dropped..a lot of the Germans are not happy with then either...we looked at them at the Paris show, as the Hymers was one of the vans on our shopping list....we soon discarded them and walked on, it was more like shopping at MFI.(printed mdf) the colours the quality they did not feel quality any more......I still like Hymers... the well built ones..the older models that have stood the test of time and still going..if was to buy a Hymer it would be 2002 to 2003 "s" class on the lines of this one

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or this one

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NOT A NEW ONE....sorryoh:

Mel

 

[Road Runner]

fairly

I've said it before and I'll say it again John - eat everything you need to (ie watch your portion size!) but cut down on the carbohydrate content! You can go a lot further on a boiled egg or bacon and egg, than you can on a bowl of cereal. Insulin is a growth hormone and the more you inject 'to cover the carbs', the more weight you will put on.

OK if you ARE Haggers and are doing the exercise and aren't diabetic, then carbs are OK. But if Steve Redgrave (T2 diabetic) can win Olympic Gold Medals AND curb the carbs - then any of us who don't do that kind of exercise, can manage without so many.

And choose your booze wisely; some things have a lot more calories and carbs - eg beer. Wine - esp red wine - is better all round. Just don't drink a similar quantity and don't quaff it like beer LOL

Jenny

One thing in my defence is I am twice as tall as haggers I am 6ft 5.5in so somewhat relative and no I am not interested in being super fit either.

I am happy as I am thank you very much ..........now when I were younger was slimmer and fitter cleaning endless cars all day:thumb:

 

[kickstart]

In the current climate should we be buying British ?

Can the Brits compete with all those famous (expensive) German marques Hymer, Burstner Dethleffs etc. What has our industry got to do to trounce em? Are they still much better than ours these days?

Bought German last time, but impressed with some of the U.K manufacturers such as the Bentley range and R.S (both local South Yorkshire by the way) not cheap, but quality and lots of thought gone into design.
As others have said,you would by the best you could afford no matter where it was built.

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[ciderman]

the main thing i have noticed is nobody has mentioned keeping the mh for a long time so really you are all talking about resale and how much money it will cost to change IMHO any mh with a wooden frame is suspect so a hymer to 2004 or a new bailey bit crappy inside but damp banished due to plastic framing ( hymer aluminium) also winter use a must,the days of using a major purchase for 5-7 months of the year are surely long gone so all year comfort is a givern :thumb:

 

[Snowbird]

the main thing i have noticed is nobody has mentioned keeping the mh for a long time so really you are all talking about resale and how much money it will cost to change IMHO any mh with a wooden frame is suspect so a hymer to 2004 or a new bailey bit crappy inside but damp banished due to plastic framing ( hymer aluminium) also winter use a must,the days of using a major purchase for 5-7 months of the year are surely long gone so all year comfort is a givern :thumb:

Good point re the framing. My RV was aluminium framed and was 22 years old when I sold it. Quality built and still going strong. The MH I have now is aluminium framed so am hoping to get a few years out of it. What I have found is when the Germans say "Fully winterised" they mean just that,not just put a dump valve on the water heater.oh:
Whilst fitting an extra tank on a Tabbert I had to cut a hole in the sidewall for the filler and was surprised to find the wall was over 3" thick. All tanks and piping are inboard and all lockers are heated. Double skinned floors are the norm along with double burner heating systems. Anyone buying a MH at today's prices whether it be new or secondhand must take into account that is it fit for all year round use. If not its not fit for purpose in my book regardless of where its made and how much it cost.

 

[JJ]

Old Hymers are BEST!

My 1987 is a beauty. Try comparing my 1987 660S with a UK built one of the same age and layout...

What? Can't find anything to compare it with?

See you in Marjal...

Mancini for Archbishop...

JJ :Cool:

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[beachcaster]

I always liked the big burstners...but what amazes me is the decision to
"upgrade" the interiors with white or cream leather. Im not ever likely to spend 90k on a motorhome but....

Who in their right mind wants pale or white leather .After all its is still gloryfied camping !

You can take some things too far up market !


barry

 

[Snowbird]

Old Hymers are BEST!

My 1987 is a beauty. Try comparing my 1987 660S with a UK built one of the same age and layout...

What? Can't find anything to compare it with?

See you in Marjal...

Mancini for Archbishop...

JJ :Cool:

You would be hard pressed finding a 1987 UK built MH still on the road. But if you did what would you find and would you trust it to drive to Portugal ???

 

[Road Runner]

Old Hymers are BEST!

My 1987 is a beauty. Try comparing my 1987 660S with a UK built one of the same age and layout...

What? Can't find anything to compare it with?

See you in Marjal...

Mancini for Archbishop...

JJ :Cool:

Be nice to see it over here JJ as many have said it's a peach of a van:thumb:

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[haganap]

I always liked the big burstners...but what amazes me is the decision to
"upgrade" the interiors with white or cream leather. Im not ever likely to spend 90k on a motorhome but....

Who in their right mind wants pale or white leather .After all its is still gloryfied camping !

You can take some things too far up market !


barry

err, me and Mrs Haganap :Blush:

 

[Chris]

err, me and Mrs Haganap :Blush:

Me too.

 

[Chris]

I always liked the big burstners...but what amazes me is the decision to
"upgrade" the interiors with white or cream leather. Im not ever likely to spend 90k on a motorhome but....

Who in their right mind wants pale or white leather .After all its is still gloryfied camping !

You can take some things too far up market !


barry

If my dealer had offered me £10k more for mine (rather than take the piss) I would have bought a Burstner Elegance 2011 2 months ago. Complete with White leather etc.

It is only camping but why not enjoy it if you can ?

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[motorhomelover]

In the current climate should we be buying British ?

Can the Brits compete with all those famous (expensive) German marques Hymer, Burstner Dethleffs etc. What has our industry got to do to trounce em? Are they still much better than ours these days?

i have an American RV British can never build as good shame to say

 

[Road Runner]

i have an American RV British can never build as good shame to say

Any views on German vans?

 

[ciderman]

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I always liked the big burstners...but what amazes me is the decision to
"upgrade" the interiors with white or cream leather. Im not ever likely to spend 90k on a motorhome but....

Who in their right mind wants pale or white leather .After all its is still gloryfied camping !

You can take some things too far up market !



barry

err, me and Mrs Haganap :Blush:

but the thing with leather is if you spill any fluids on it wipe clean job great for the incontinent or sexually active amongst us

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[haganap]

Any views on German vans?

yes If you stand on one whilst on the M6, the view is fantastic. But not as good as standing on an RV though

 

[lorger]

We have a British built van and yes it is more basic/entry level than others but at this time it suits us both in layout and pocket. As for German as a child i always wanted to own a Merc car and last summer even dragged Lorraine and Sophie around the museum in Stuggart. When we came home we where changing our car and looked at new mercs and must admit thought they where very over priced for what you got in my opinion paying for a badge so bought a new Civic instead and really pleased with it and although not 100% British it is built here.

Saying that we do like the new Hymer B504

 

[Reallyretired]

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One thing in my defence is [HI]I am twice as tall as haggers I am 6ft 5.5in[/HI] so somewhat relative and no I am not interested in being super fit either.

I am happy as I am thank you very much ..........now when I were younger was slimmer and fitter cleaning endless cars all day:thumb:

Is Haggers just 3ft 2.75ins then

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[jonandshell]

We would really, really like the option to buy a British MH.

The decision is taken out of our hands the moment we dictate we want to use it off-grid in harsh winter conditions, not just for 8 months of the year on a CC site.

'Grade 3' insulation and other such marketing bull isn't going to make up for inadequate heating, titchy uninsulated under-slung water tanks, a tiny washroom and ineffective front wheel drive.

Sorry British manufacturers, until you raise the bar, we'll be shopping in the EU.:Sad:

 

[Road Runner]

Is Haggers just 3ft 2.75ins then

He just manages to get through the minimum height barriers for rides at fairgrounds


Only Joking Paul.................

 

[haganap]

We would really, really like the option to buy a British MH.

The decision is taken out of our hands the moment we dictate we want to use it off-grid in harsh winter conditions, not just for 8 months of the year on a CC site.

'Grade 3' insulation and other such marketing bull isn't going to make up for inadequate heating, titchy uninsulated under-slung water tanks, a tiny washroom and ineffective front wheel drive.

Sorry British manufacturers, until you raise the bar, we'll be shopping in the EU.:Sad:

well I will report back in a few months then, As a regular motorhome skier I am off to -25 conditons in my double floored well insulated Bessacarr. I have to do a lot of work my self to get it ready but dont think it is any different to the continental vans I used to own, just more comfy cosy and better looking.:thumb:

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[jonandshell]

Hi Haganap

I believe your Bessy is the one exception to the usual specification of British motorhomes!

Still wouldn't buy a FWD again though!!!!!!