German Motorhomes

Discussion in 'Motorhome Chat' started by Jim, Dec 11, 2011.

  1. Jim

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    In the current climate should we be buying British ?

    Can the Brits compete with all those famous (expensive) German marques Hymer, Burstner Dethleffs etc. What has our industry got to do to trounce em? Are they still much better than ours these days?
     
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    No, we should buy what gives us best quality for our available money. If the Brits want the action they should prove their offer is best.

    If the Euro slides it will be tough for the Brits.


    ( I once bought a Rover because it was Made in Britain !!! )
     
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    Don't think it matters so much as where its made. What has to be considered is are we prepared to pay for quality.
    In the early days Hymers were built to a quality not to a price,as they had little competition. Now everybody and his dog is building motorhomes including the Chinese and I think quality has given way to building at a price.
    Some will always be prepared to pay the extra premium for a quality built motorhome just like anything else.
     
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    I think the mass produced vans are all of a certain standard and until we as buyers demand better they will keep churning out sub-standard vans.I read things like vans needing new floors as they are rotten in a few years,and the owners saying what a good job they made of it under warranty a real joke
     
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    I suppose Italy is the biggest winner in the Motorhome market, no matter wether it's a German or Brit motorhome, chances are the Italians have made money buy supplying the Fiat base. Not helped their countries position much though has it :BigGrin:
     
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    We looked long and hard for a replacement for our 1989 Hobby..
    A year of trudging round looking at all manner of vans.. the one thing that we both constantly came across was how poor the quality of brit made motorhomes were compared to our ( almost ) 20 year old van..
    To start with we thought they were just made better back then.. but no, once we started doing direct side by side comparisons I am afraid we found the same with todays vehicles.

    SeA are not known as top end builders, but our Miller States ( built in Italy ) leaves a good many others in the dust when it comes to build quality
     
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    OK I believe the older one are much better............:Cool:

    Similar to Mercedes of yesteryear and now..........:Wink:
     
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    I think if I was buying new now I wouldn't buy a German van. When we bought ours we looked at quite a few Swift models new and old but as soon as we walked into our van the difference in build quality was obvious, even to me.

    If you are buying second hand I don't suppose it matters.

    We have a BMW as well but I won't buy another or a Merc.

    Trouble is how can you buy British on the car front?
     
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    I doubt it frankly; when you do speak to a Jonny Foreigner that you can have such a conversation with - I think they probably have as many problems as we report in UK. Clutch going on base vehicle (that was a Belgian Ford) after 1,000 kms, first time out; things dropping off etc.

    BUT Jim - first time out in ours 2 years ago, aire at Le Crotoy - 2 other English families on hols together, both with newish Swifts, both of which were apparently falling apart. At this point we'd had to buy a packet of screws because they'd omitted them out of the removeable bit of floor inside which gives access to the fresh water tank; it had slid under the carpet as we went along, we parked and I went to go back into the hab area and promptly put my foot down the hole. Luckily I hadn't put my full weight on it. Also it had had a leak in a skylight and the roof was discoloured so dealer had refitted it, fine, but the stain was progressing. We kept schtum. When we got back to Blighty Swift had it back and sorted it. None of it was a problem - the dealer and Swift were great.

    No it shouldn't happen really blah blah blah, but knowing how brill they are in sorting probs, we'd use Marquis at Northampton again and certainly have another Swift at the drop of a hat.

    And we ran across the one couple again this year. They were on their second van since the Swift; I can't remember what it was but def a European - and she said 'it's showing signs of its age now so we'll have to start looking for another' - WHAT? - after less than 2 years? Whereas it's the norm to see whole families take their shoes off before they set foot in their vans, and they usually have towels laid on the internal steps too, lest a speck of dirt dare to pass their threshold. Pristine net curtains!

    So - bearing in mind Pete's 1981 Avondale caravan that they rallied EVERY weekend in, plus at least 3 weeks holiday with their 2 daughters, assorted friends, teenage foster children, assorted dogs and once a litter of puppies, oh and Pete's mam too sometimes, is still going strong and in full working order, went to France with eldest daughter and gang (5 of em) for a fortnight last year - perhaps it's more to do with the way we treat our vans that's the key, rather than the vans themselves?

    Jenny
     
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    A lot of the models merc made that were great they lost money on every one in the past now accountants run the show
     
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    :BigGrin:
    Have they still got a really long waiting list?
     
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    You don't like Land Rover, Jaguar, Vauxhall, Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Bentley, Rolls, Maclaren, Morgan and a few tiddlers.

    Ford ?
     
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    We imported a new Ford Galaxy 2.3 Ghia to order from a main dealer in Alkmaar in January 2000 it was RHD and UK spec , I had it lpg converted from new. It cost around £7k less than in the UK.
    It is now almost 12 years old , main dealer serviced since new, 111,000 on the clock never any trouble and still drives a treat.:Smile:
    I would not pay over the odds just for a name such as Mercedes or BMW etc .
    Same as my Ford based RV , excellent value for money with everything in the price. :thumb:
     
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    I will buy what ever I want from what ever manufacturer as long as it suits my needs.
    I am really impressed by our swift, if it falls apart then so be it, but it is a great van as far as Im concerned. :thumb:
    when it comes to changing it I will buy what ever I fancy at that time. I will choose on Layout, and it suiting my needs. It will fall in to 3 categories, Budget van, Middle of the road and or Mark of distinction. I actually do not think Hymer fit in to the 3rd category any more. I think that's more Concorde, Cathargo territory.

    But most of all, I will buy the best van i can afford with the money i have available which ever country it comes from.
     
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    Actually.........................

    That raises a whole different question within the same ball park

    I would quite probably look at SECONDHAND brit vans that were a few years old as by then all the bits and bobs would have been sorted out.

    So methinks pre-owned and new are two totally different kettles of fish
     
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    It's the current climate that's made me glad my van is German. Fully winterised - which is more than any of the British vans can manage. :RollEyes:
     
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    I do apologise .. failed completely to answer the original question ( miss read it truth be told )

    In this current climate I would buy what ever offered me the best value for money.. It would matter not where it originally came from.

    I honestly believe individuals trying to put an embargo on a country in any field is unlikely to even be noticed in the greater scheme of things, whereas a few quidlets more or less or a duff purchase would certainly be noticed by me and my back pocket !!
     
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    Ive had a few cars but my jag is my pride and joy never let me down and looks good, we were going to buy a merc this year for the wife but decided on a ford focus hard top convertable. We tend to buy what suits us and our pocket:thumb:




    but shes still saying we should of bought the merc:cry::cry:
     
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    I'm not alone then :Smile: We intend changing our van next year and will go with a checklist of features we want, which will not include any particular manufacturer let alone country of origin.

    We may also change the car next year. Won't have another Citroen after the experience with the camshaft fracturing but could well go back to Skoda having had several good vehicles in the past.
     
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